Re this, the appropriate norm is to archive talkpages when they reach a certain size. I don't know how to do my own ;-), someone else set it up for me. It's fine, though, to edit your own talkpage as you see fit; but normal practice is to archive for later reference if/when needed.Skookum1 (talk) 06:08, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
- It was just getting too much. For my own future reference I cut,pasted and saved the content as a word file. I ordered the Dr. Miyazaki’s book also because I am interested in what he writes about the Ruskin-mura. Perhaps he identifies the family that formed that “village.” It seems that only a few families -- perhaps only one -- ended up in Shalalth. This is what one of my Japanese informants tell me:
- I had never heard of Shalalth before your email. I looked around on the internet & saw that it was one of the self-sustaining communities where the Japanese were concentrated during the war. My uncle told me that there were "self-sustaining communities in B.C. but the one he spoke of was in the Okanagan. As, I understand it, some families chose to evacuate & provide for themselves at their own expense in order to keep their families together &, perhaps, to maintain a greater degree of control over their lives.
- Other families, like those of both my parents, were split-up & told where to go. In those cases, the women, younger children & older men were sent to internment camps like Tashme. The younger men were sent to road camps or sawmills in the interior to perform work that was deemed useful by the government.‘'
- From the stories I’ve heard, it seemed like most of the Ruskin families that my parents & uncle knew & talked about (1) went to various internment camps (primarily Tashme) — with their younger men going off to road camps — OR (2) chose to keep their families together & volunteered to go to Alberta to work on established caucasian farms there. I don't recall hearing of anyone from Ruskin opting to go to Shalalth (or Bridge River).
Braches (talk) 19:03, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
- As is evident that at best only a few and certainly not “many” on the Ruskin Japanese moved or were moved to Shalalth and that this was just one of several places where they spent the war years I’d like to see the note removed.
Braches (talk) 22:31, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
- Lillooet Museum tells me: "... we are sold out. We did not publish, the doctors daughter did."
Braches (talk) 19:01, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
- I received my copy of My Sixty Years and found no mention of the Ruskin “village” in that book. I therefore removed the footnote and the reference to Dr. Miyazaki’s book. If and when you find the proper reference, could you let me know, please? Was it perhaps in another camp?
Braches (talk) 03:47, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
- It was in the photocopy of his typeschrift MS in the SFU library when I read it; and not a village, but a barracks or a house dubbed a mura. I'll write Sue Bryson at the Lillooet Museum; could be it's not in the published version.... I clearly remember it as I remarked on it. Do you have Andreas Schroeder's Mission: Carved From Wood? I don't think it's in there, but maybe that's where I remarked upon seeing the name. Been a long time since I read either one....Skookum1 (talk) 08:39, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
- And if it was in My Sixty Years, it may have been in reference to Minto City instead.... and the Shalalth townsite was called Bridge River, and was also in my time there. Maybe it's only in the MS version, but again I can't see why it would be taken out...he does give a lot of family names in there and where they'd been sent up from, though.Skookum1 (talk) 08:46, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
I leave it to you to find out where you read that--it was not in Minto City in Dr. M’s book either. Please let me know?
btw edit
anything about Chinese in Ruskin or Whonnock by the way? Mission had a Chinatown, down on the flats, between the tracks and the riverfront, that evolved after the Great Flood of 1894); I can't say I remember even a Chinese grocer in the area, nor other than the Gongs (who I'm sure were at least part-Chinese); having big issues with a POV/biased artisan on Chinese Canadians in British Columbia who is trying to rationalize excluding all sources that have material other than the range of biased academic-political stuff with....can't even really recall any in Haney....other than as with Langley a Chinese restaurant or two.Skookum1 (talk) 08:41, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
An occasional one but no Chinese settlers or land owners--no Chinese stores, restaurants or other businesses.