User talk:Angmering/Archive2

The Stage article

Given that it's an actual news piece instead of just a forum thread, I've put it up. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 08:51, August 18, 2005 (UTC)

Cool, cheers. As I said, I was just a little wary of doing so due to my own authorship of it. Angmering 09:02, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

BBC television drama

If you want lots of feedback, I suggest submitting it as a featured article candidate. I think it's a fine article and definitely worth a go. The DVD screencaps have really added to it. - Motor (talk) 08:30:52, 2005-08-21 (UTC)

Thank you for your very kind words! The article has been something of a labour of love for me and I do hope to submit ot to the FAC page, but I think etiquette if nothing else demands that I put it up on peer review for at least a week or so, to address any comments that may be made there. Angmering 10:22, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Aztecs

D'oh! --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 00:15, August 28, 2005 (UTC)

Adelaide Hall

Thanks for your message. I'd heard of her (and heard her on some recordings), but what prompted the article was seeing it on one of the lists at Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles. It was interesting to write, though; I'm glad that it was also intersting to read. Phronima 15:52, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Sunday afternoon serials

Wow, that was a fast response! Thanks. I hadn't realised they continued for so long, actually. Telsa 18:08, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

I suppose it really depends on what you count as part of that strand. After all, this year's version of Kidnapped, with Paul McGann, was shown on Sunday late afternoons / early evenings and was very much a part of that tradition. Angmering 13:12, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Russell T. Davies

I think he may have been a producer and a director on Why Don't You?. I was watching some rubbishy 100 worst TV moments and Russell appeared briefly as Why Don't You? was one of the entries, and he was decribed as director. [1] has him listed as assistant producer and director. Puzzling :) --TimPope 11:12, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Prom

Please see my response on Talk:List of words having different meanings in British and American English. I would dispute that this is a British usage - more it is an uncommon British borrowing from American. Many (possibly most) American words fall into this category, since we understand so many of them through constant bombardment by the American broadcasting industry and some impressionable people insist on adopting them for whatever reason. This doesn't, I would argue, make them British usage. In this specific instance, I have never heard or read of the word 'prom' used in this way in the UK, and I would suggest that this would be most people's response. Cheers. -- Necrothesp 00:54, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thanks for the barn star. It would never have occurred to me that I was deserving of one. In fact I scarcely knew such things existed. I put the milk carton picture up because I like milk cartons. I scarcely even noticed there was a barn star on it. Honest. Why do I get the feeling you're not convinced? ;o) bodnotbod 14:44, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

You're very welcome! Angmering 14:55, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

Dylan/BBC

I have no idea why the BBC would make the statement you reported. Several Canadian performances before the UK trip are well-documented -- here's a setlist for one

http://www.bjorner.com/DSN00150%201962.htm#DSN00220

which was recorded, has been described by people who were there, etc.

Dylan has also claimed to have been in Mexico before his arrival in New York, and while that's probably one of his tall tales it can't be completely disproved.

The '62-63 visit (and it definitely began in December '62, documented by folks like Martin Carthy and Peggy Seeger) was probably his first trip to the UK or Europe. Monicasdude 19:26, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

Wiping

Looking over the article, I think that Junking would probably be a better description of what's going on, and various redirects created if necessary. I was initially thinking of something like Junking (film) or Junking (tape), but neither one precisely fits. If you want further input, Requested Moves probably is the place for it.

The other thing is, now that the wiping/junking article contains a sizeable chunk of general info as to why and how the junking policy was carried out, should that duplicate information in Doctor Who missing episodes (which is not directly connected to Doctor Who), be cut down or removed with a pointer to the junking article? --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 00:11, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

I think I'll probably be bold and go ahead and move the page to Junking, then – there aren't that many links that would need fixing, less that fifty anyway, and it's a better description for it. You're probably right about cutting down the general info in the Doctor Who piece and creating a link to the Junking article, too. I'll see if I can have a go at that at some point soon, unless you or someone else gets there first! Angmering 00:31, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Dad's Army and the missingness thereof

That's a good point. I hadn't thought of that, and only re-added because there ought to be two examples, and, well, I like Dad's Army :). But seriously, you've been doing excellent work on these articles, and have greatly trumped my knowledge of BBC drama (but, as a boorish American, it's tougher for me :) I think United! would be a suitable example for the top, but I'd like to hear what you think. Respond on my talk page, because I like orange :)--Sean Jelly Baby? 23:09, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Monoids

Nonsense, perhaps, but I draw the line at stuff! —Josiah Rowe 00:53, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

How about balderdash? Angmering 00:55, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Do they cover that in jiggery-pokery? —Josiah Rowe 01:00, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

I wouldn't know, I didn't take jiggery-pokery I'm afraid. Didn't have the Latin. Angmering 01:02, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

I failed hullabuloo, myself. —Josiah Rowe 01:08, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Was that due to a satanic miniaturised version of yourself massacring all of your teachers? Angmering 01:11, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Good Lord. I hoped mini-Josiah Rowe had been consigned to the dustbin of history. I'm now thoroughly convinced that in 53 years I'll present my computerized ident-chip to a waiter at a restaurant in Tashkent, and he'll say, "Josiah Rowe? Any relation to mini-Josiah Rowe?" —Josiah Rowe 01:18, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Just goes to show you're never safe from the reach of online fandom. Well, I am for the next few hours anyway, as I am off to bed! Angmering 01:21, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Peer review - Our Friends In The North

Hello. Firstly, thank you for your gracious compliment, that's very kind. I'm afraid I won't be much use to you this time. I haven't seen the programme. Yes, I know: OUTRAGEOUS! It has, in fact, been on my postal DVD rental list for a few months (along with a couple of hundred other things). I went to look at the article in any case, as one doesn't have to have seen a programme to help out with flow, spelling, layout etc. But (as is fair for an encyclopedic article) I notice that it warns me of spoilers - so I hope you won't mind if I don't spoil the drama for myself. I'm not quite sure how I missed it when it was broadcast but I know it's supposed to be very, very good. Don't hesitate to ask me to look at anything else in future, there's really no need to think it "cheeky" or an imposition at all. Good luck with the featured article status. Right, I must get back to work on missus Rachel Whiteread. --bodnotbod 18:45, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

That's fair enough – many thanks for taking the time to reply, in any case. I hope you enjoy it when you do finally get the chance to see it. I personally think it's one of the finest television dramas ever made, if not the finest. You've got a treat in store for you when you get to see it! Angmering 19:22, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

State of Play and The Girl in the Cafe

If I may say so, kudos to you for writing such great articles. I remember seeing the pitiful stub on State of Play a few months ago, and then coming back a couple of weeks ago to find that it'd been fully fleshed out. I just saw The Girl on the Cafe last night and checked on here to see whether we had an article on it, and was very pleased to see the same thing. Ambi 10:35, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Attenborough's Bollocks

I have to say, I found it very bizarre on hearing it - it sounded a most unlikely turn of events. I only had the DVD on rental and it has gone back now. Ummm. I'll take that bit out, since it's hardly a must-have for the article. --bodnotbod 13:21, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Missing episodes

I was waiting a respectable amount of time. If no one else does, I'll put it up for FAC in the morning when I wake up... but feel free to go ahead and put it there if you want to. :) --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 15:16, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

I think I'll leave it to you! You're far more respectable a nominator than I. :-) Angmering 15:18, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Other Hitchhiker's references in Doctor Who

I saw you added the reference to Destiny of the Daleks - surprised nobody thought of that sooner. Do you want to tackle The Pirate Planet too, or let someone else do it? ;) The onscreen notes reveal a few more references that were cut from the final script, so I don't know if those are fair game or not. :) --JohnDBuell | Talk 22:08, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

I'd best leave that to someone else — to be honest I've never been a great fan of The Pirate Planet, and haven't actually watched it for years. (Generally I like Adams' work, both generally and on Doctor Who, but that one never quite clicked for me). I'm busy adding gratuitious National Television Awards links, anyway! ;-) Angmering 22:10, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Done. City of Death is out next week, but I don't recall any blatant Hitchhiker's references. I suppose if I want to really be (geeky, nerdy, fanboyish, anal-retentive, pick one) I could include the deliberate references to Hitchhiker's inserted by Lee Sullivan and Big Finish when they did the complete version of Shada for BBCi.... --JohnDBuell | Talk 12:36, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Hi, there's info on "Madhouse" @ www.bbc.co.uk/bob dylan - Be lucky.Lion King 01:33, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Andrew Marshall

Man, that article needs a hell of a cleanup, quite aside from the POV issues with that editor. Yes, that claim requries a source, and it's not good enough to say "I was at the meeting," since we have no idea who he is, and not to mention if it's from his own personal knowledge, it's original research. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 14:26, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

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Hello-this seems to be the only way I can contact the authors of this page, as far as I can see- its certainly interesting to see the ins and outs of information, and perhaps I can help a little. I don't know who the errant contributor is, or to what meeting they refer to, possibly an "offers" meeting of some kind, but as far as the information was passed back to me, DW was certainly a favoured project of the Conroller at the time, Lorraine H, and she certainly told us she preferred to reallocate possible resources for a second Strange to it instead. The comments on the scheduling are pretty accurate imo but the above may slightly enlighten them, perhaps. (Do I detect an inbuilt bias towards DW disguised as zealous application of the rules? I hope not.) The appearing and disappearing "quotes" section is interesting- I wonder who collected them? I believe I did say all those things at some point or other (though I dont think the Thatcher one is particularly witty)- interestingly I'm certain I never said the one quote that remains, concerning Awards Ceremonies. How come that one slipped through? Now I'm starting to get slightly hurt- is "attempted" a drama a rather scathing remark? Isn't this supposed to be non-judgemental? And, in the spirit of pedantry, surely Strange didn't "find a sufficiently large audience for a Saturday Night Slot" is more accurate- as it stands it implies nobody watched at all. And by the way- if you are Russell T Davis's Mother- please tell your son, I'm a fan. best wishes, Andrew Marshall.

Hi Andrew — biasing towards Doctor Who is certainly not my intention, although as you can doubtless tell from my contributions I am a fan of that series. The comment about New Who being responsible for Strange's cancellation was completely unsourced and not something I'd read anywhere else — I did try tracking down any other verification, but I couldn't find any. It was also written in a tone that suggested that had Strange continued Doctor Who wouldn't have happened. In any case, it's certainly not my intention to create a Who bias, merely to make sure that information is correctly sourced. Perhaps it's best if I stay away from the article from now on and leave other more neutral editors to it. Keep up the good work, by the way. Angmering 18:19, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Argentina and England football rivalry

Hey! I like the article, you did a great job of keeping it balanced! I just gave the other POV to show our view and make it better. This (together with the Falklands War series of articles) shows how WP can bring people together and eliminate all differences.

Sebastian Kessel ^Talk 20:54, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

PS: I like Argentine better, but both are cool. :)

• Thanks for the note - I enjoyed working on the article. I did wonder whether it was worth noting that football was brought to Argentina by English ex-pats, hence all the English-isms in Argentine football, and the English names of some of the teams (River Plate, etc.). (from the longer press articles quoted as references). Sort of a pre-1966 build up... The 50's comment from the politician could go in there. What do you think? Anyway, cheers, Sliggy 21:09, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Sounds like a good idea, it would definitely add something. Good thinking! Angmering 21:13, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Godfather

Yeah, it's one of those stupid, semi-irrational things that make no logical sense. Yes, God is capitalised when referring to the God, Yaweh, Jehovah, etc., but when you're referring to a godparent, although the term godparent originally meant a person responsible for the child's religious education, since the word referred to the mortal person, it would be sacrilegious to capitalise the title, as God is reserved for the Big Guy Upstairs. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 08:17, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Aha, I see. That makes sense. :-) Angmering 17:20, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Attack of the Graske

Hey, Paul. Where did you find out the title of the "Red Button" episode? (I know that another user started the page, but I figured you must have known it was a legitimate title, or you wouldn't have put it on the serials page.) —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 16:55, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

I don't have a copy myself, but enough people have said the title comes from the new Radio Times for me to believe it. Angmering 17:15, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

Ah, Radio Times. Of course. (I'd probably know that if I checked the OG forum, but I find that once I step in there I'm browsing for at least three hours.) Thanks. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 17:28, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (film)

Hey, thanks for your recent addition to the page [2]. I was wondering if you might could find some information to verify this assertion, a link online perhaps or some kind of citation? Thanks a ton, Ëvilphoenix ^Burn! 18:25, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Looking at that sentence again, the wording is a little different than what I'd recalled, and I think that link works well for what the sentence is actually asserting. Thanks for your help, and please do continue to contribute! Ëvilphoenix ^Burn! 06:30, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Hey...

Merry Christmas! I hope you're holiday is a good one, Paul, and I'm terribly glad that I get to see this the day after (I can thank the CBC for that one). Anyways, do be happy tommorrow and the days following.--Sean|Black 07:58, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi Sean, thanks. You have a good one too. :-) Angmering 12:16, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations!

This Featured Article Medal is awarded to Paul Hayes, a.k.a. Angmering, for his work on bringing articles related to British television to Featured Article status.

So I go to the main page, and see Our Friends in the North is today's featured article. I know that you did a lot of work on that page, so congratulations! I notice on your page that you also have several other featured articles that you created or contributed heavily to, so here's a Featured Article Medal. (You could also take some more credit for your work on Doctor Who articles, you know!) —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 15:42, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

I should get Our Friends in the North from Netflix or something soon. (I don't think it was ever broadcast on US TV, which is a shame.) All the best people reccomend it! :) —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 16:43, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

I stand corrected! I guess I just missed it. I'm pretty sure that I've seen it in DVD catalogues, so it probably is out in Region 1. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 17:01, 2 January 2006 (UTC)