AngevinKnight1154
Daft Punk - clarification edit
By the way, the only reason I'm lobbying this hard to keep it in tip-top shape is that this article (and 3/4 of their studio albums) are GAs and I don't want them to fall into disrepair so I'm trying my very best here. dannymusiceditor oops 18:14, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
Capetian-Plantagenet rivalry edit
The Hundred Years' War is in no way relevant to this conflict. Its centerpiece is the struggle over the Angevin Empire, not the French throne. In other words it is all about the Angevin kings of England's holdings in France. It starts with the feud between Henry II of England and Louis VII of France and ends with the Treaty of Paris in 1259 signed between Louis IX and Henry III, which shattered the later's hope of restoring the Angevin Empire which had collapsed under his father's (John Lackland) reign. The only French kings concerned here are Louis VII, Philip II Augustus, Louis VIII and finally Louis IX/Saint Louis. "Capetian" here doesn't refer to the Capetian Dynasty as a whole but to the senior House of Capet itself or like its members are called in French the "Capétiens directs". The "Capetian-Plantagenet rivalry" or the "First Hundred Years' War" is much more a theme in French historiography. It is barely considered a timeline unlike the Hundred Years' War itself is. You spoke about historians combining this specific struggle with the Hundred Years' War which pitted the cadet branch of House of Capet (the House of Valois) against the House of Plantagenet and its cadet branch, the House of Lancaster but I've yet to see anything ressembling to it in Francophone sources. So which English/Anglophone sources disputing the fact that it encompasses the 1159-1259 period do you have in your possession? I did not randomly revert the page. I did see your original contributions dating back years ago but I scrolled through the one you made recently and saw not a single academic source listed. It is a bit rich to be telling me to use the Talk Page after the arbitrary changes you've made. I don't even have a problem with your rewording of the lead. But if we can't get the timeline even right, what exactly is the point of the article? The Hundred Years' War has no place there. (Jules Agathias (talk) 01:16, 10 September 2021 (UTC))