AmbreCamps

February 2018

I have moved the content you posted here to User:AmbreCamps/sandbox, because that is an appropriate place to put draft content for an article, whereas a talk page is for messages and discussions relating to editing the encyclopaedia. Unfortunately much of the content of that page is unsuitable, as it is not written from a neutral point of view, as required for Wikipedia. Language such as "constant innovation and high-quality product", for example, reads like marketing copy. Also, you need to provide references to reliable sources to support your content. I am posting you a notice which contains links to various Wikipedia policies, guidelines, and information pages. You may find that content of some of them will help you. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 16:36, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

Answer February 2018

Hello JamesBWatson, thanks a lot for your notice. I saw number of pages proceding this way to avoid cluttering the brand discussion pages, but if it's not the appropriate way, could you tell me the place to put draft content for an article? Regarding the two positive sentences "constant innovation and high-quality product" and "innovative company", it is real facts as Rimowa won an Innovation Award. As I actually rely on many reliable sources to support all my points, please find them below:

https://globenewswire.com/news-release/2006/12/19/352610/110623/en/RIMOWA-TANGO-Award-Winning-Innovation.html http://www.surfacemag.com/the-list/profile/rimowa/

 https://fashionista.com/2017/12/alexandre-arnault-rimowa-luggage 
 https://eprretailnews.com/2016/10/05/rimowa-to-become-the-first-german-maison-of-the-lvmh-group-5643232319/ 
 https://www.forbes.com/sites/barrysamaha/2017/10/10/rimowa-aluminum-suitcases-80th-anniversary/#10694b653b27 
 https://www.forbes.com/sites/barrysamaha/2017/10/10/rimowa-aluminum-suitcases-80th-anniversary/#10694b653b27
 https://www.gracefuldegrade.com/2017/05/rimowa-where-is-my-key-tsa-lock-on-a-rimowa/ 
 https://www.rimowa.com/en-us/turnover-grows 
 https://fashionista.com/2017/12/alexandre-arnault-rimowa-luggage 
 https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/06/fashion/lvmh-rimowa-alexandre-arnault.html 
 https://r.lvmh-static.com/uploads/2017/11/2017-financial-documents.pdf 
 https://www.rimowa.com/en-us/partnership 
 https://www.lofficielmalaysia.com/fashion/fendi-partners-with-rimowa-for-limited-edition-luggage 
 https://monocle.com/shop/bags-and-travel/other/rimowa-x-monocle-cabin-multiwheel/ 
 http://www.glamasia.com/2016/08/30/rimowa-x-moncler-reinventing-iconic-topas-stealth/ 
 https://www.highsnobiety.com/p/anti-social-social-club-teases-rimowa-collaboration/ 
 https://www.forbes.com/sites/barrysamaha/2017/10/10/rimowa-aluminum-suitcases-80th-anniversary/#10694b653b27
 http://www.harpersbazaar.com.sg/fashion/rimowa-80-years-iconic-aluminium-case-sponsored/ 

AmbreCamps (talk) 09:37, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

You added promotional content to the RIMOWA article

Dear AmbreCamps,

It seems you have a Single Purpose Account solely to add promotional content to the Rimowa article. This is not allowed on Wikipedia. If you are associated with Rimowa, you are not allowed to contribute to the Rimowa article, due to Conflict of Interest.

We try to keep Wikipedia a trustworthy source of information, I hope you can help build our encyclopedia in more healthy ways :). Thank you

Amin (Talk) 14:29, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

ANSWER TO:You added promotional content to the RIMOWA article

Dear Amin,

Thank you for your message. I would like to update Rimowa page according to Wikipedia rules, in a neutral way. I am not associated to the brand in any way, I'm just a Rimowa passionated user who would like to complete the page as I know it well for years. As you may know Rimowa faced big changes since last year with the LVMH aquisition, its partnership strategy, as well as its logo. For everyonve's benefit, it will be good not to undo everything I write but to upgrade it in a better way, as this remain useful and true information. :) Best. Ambre AmbreCamps (talk) 15:54, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

@AmbreCamps: I too am passionate about Rimowa, and there is nothing wrong with adding well referenced information to pages we are interested in. Nonetheless, your contributions are not neutral in tone. I invite you to read more about the style rules before contributing again. Thank you for your understanding. Amin (Talk) 18:54, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

@Amin: Hello Amin, as we're both passionate about Rimowa and just want both the information to be up-to-date and neutral, maybe we should not delete each other modification but change it to be as factual as possible. When you delete all my modification you delete all the new information as the logo, and so on. I'll try my best to change and adapt the tone. But let's work good intelligently with good cooperation and not erase again and again. AmbreCamps (talk) 14:18, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

@AmbreCamps: Hi friend. I appreciate your changes and improvements. To be fair, I think we are not quite there yet, so I will revert your edits again. I'll explain some of the problems:

1) Under history you used A. and B. headlines. This is not correct formatting for Wikipedia.

2) You have included a lot of information that is not relevant or encyclopedic. On Wikipedia, readers should get a brief summary of the company with only the most relevant bits of information. I would say at least 80% of your contributions are redundant and unworthy of being included in an encyclopedia.

3) There is still a promotional tone. I love Rimowa just as you do. But to preserve the quality and integrity of Wikipedia, we should not do the marketing for Rimowa, they can do that themselves :).

4) You included references to untrustworthy sources such as one and one.

I will revert your edits now, and I welcome your future contributions. Thank you for your time. Amin (Talk) 19:04, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

@Amin: Dear Amin, I took your points into account. From now, can you help the community, as well as myself, to improve this complete version instead of deprive readers of interesting and updated information? I'm sure we could make a great encyclopedic and exhaustive version together. Very best, Ambre AmbreCamps (talk) 16:36, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

@AmbreCamps: Hello AmbreCamps, on March 5 you wrote here "I am not associated to the brand in any way" yet your user page clearly states that you work in collaboration with Rimowa (translated from French). Can you please clarify? Thanks. --Ramitau (talk) 20:30, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

@AmbreCamps: Silence as an admission. Amin I suggest reversing all edits made by this user as they are clearly biased, far from neutral, and even hiding important historical information --wikiramiwiki (talk) 11:50, 25 September 2021 (UTC)