286blue

Edit warring

Please stop it. The articles currently have citations giving the dates: it is in the article text. The source you are using is not reliable and, as it links to a selling site, isn't one we should be using under any circumstances. - SchroCat (talk) 20:47, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi there, The articles don't have publicly available or verifiable citations which is why I've added citations to links online whereby people can see for themselves. It may well be to a selling site but they reference the correct newspaper cinema listings. The actual cinema listings are behind paywalls so impossible to link to.

I've had a look at the newspaper listings personally since you edited the dates to incorrect ones and the citations I provided are correct regarding cinema dates. Kind Hearts & Coronets did NOT open on the 13th, it opened on the 23rd - likewise Passport to Pimlico did NOT open on the 26th, it opened on the 28th. To double-check, I took a look and I've seen the cinema listings myself on The Guardian newspaper archive as well as The Times Newspaper archive but I can't link to them as they're behind paywalls/registration pages.

I've just double-checked one of the citations for the wikipedia page of Passport to Pimlico and it's completely incorrect. The citation for the date of 26 April 1949 is for an article dated 30 April 1949 called "NEW FILMS IN LONDON" - this is for a short review of the film and does NOT list any release date. The correct release date is the 28th as I've seen in the newspaper cinema listings.

As for the citation used for the release date of Kind Hearts & Coronets, again, this is incorrect. The 13 June 1949 was a TRADE ONLY screening for PRESS and CINEMA distributors - this was not the public premiere of the film which took place on 23 June 1949.

I'm not particularly interested in helping Wikipedia to be correct but thought I'd try to help once I noticed the dates were wrong. Nor am I versed in the ways of Wikipedia with regards to talk/messaging/etc, but I'm trying to help make sure that the correct dates are listed on Wikipedia as they're currently incorrect and you've reverted my edits to reinstate the wrong dates which do not have relevant, reliable, or correct citations. If you're happy to leave incorrect information at Wikipedia, and seemingly intent on removing my correct dates, so be it - I was just trying to help with the facts as a good online citizen but seems that's not welcome. - 286blue

Third opinion

Hi there You've asked for a third opinion on Kind Hearts and Coronets, but on the talk page all you have is a closed discussion that was copied from a talk page. You need to open a new section and summarize the disagreement. On Passport to Pimlico there is no discussion at all. Please create a section in each articles talk page outlining what you are arguing. Let the other editor respond. Then you can ask for a third opinion.

By the way, from my quick take this is an argument about sources. Your sources indicate one release date, others indicate another. I suggest you frame, in short and simple words, the disagreement using this framework. Thanks---- Work permit (talk) 17:48, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi there, Thanks for your message. I'm not familiar with Wikipedia procedures or formats so thanks for your advice.

I'll open up a talk (in a new tab?) on Kind Hearts and Coronets regarding the release date when I get the chance.

There is still a discussion to be had regarding the release date of Passport to Pimlico. I've contacted the website where the original citation link came from for a response, and they in turn have contacted the author of the current citation link. The author of the current citation link has responded that they believe the date of the original citation link to be correct, the 28th, and that the current date, the 26th, is potentially a mistake by a subeditor which they'll follow up on to change the date to the 28th possibly this coming week on their website. 286blue (talk) 18:08, 18 August 2019 (UTC)