User talk:173.228.123.166/Antisemitism in the UK Labour Party

Antisemitism in the UK Labour Party edit

   1 2018-05-27T10:00:02Z Undid revision 843164283 by [[Special:Contributions/Philip Cross|Philip Cross]] ([[User talk:Philip Cross|talk]]) rvt to Garageland66's last version
   2 2018-05-27T09:25:35Z forgot 1RR applies to this issue, rvt to Garagelands first change of my edits
   3 2018-05-27T09:16:14Z not really "allegations", Shah & Livingstone were suspended
   4 2018-05-27T09:12:14Z "row" => "situation"
   5 2018-05-27T09:10:55Z modified opening paragraph
   6 2018-05-27T09:03:40Z ce
   7 2018-05-27T09:02:40Z "controversy" is slightly sensationalist, "debate" is a less heated term
   8 2018-05-27T08:59:41Z restored & reduced controversies passage concerning recent months; the summary indirectly indicates the issue began with Corbyn's election as leader
   9 2018-05-27T08:51:01Z ce
  10 2018-05-27T08:48:29Z rm surplus comma
  11 2018-05-04T10:24:45Z changed cite heading; only reference, but multiple cites to the same author
  12 2018-05-04T08:41:51Z /* Election */ ce
  13 2018-05-04T08:40:52Z /* Election */ inserted cover, although David Hirsch's opinions are *only* really contested by Jeremy Corbyn's acolytes
  14 2018-05-04T08:37:35Z /* Election */ rm remnants
  15 2018-05-04T08:36:52Z /* Election */ ce
  16 2018-05-04T08:35:45Z /* Election */ ce
  17 2018-05-04T08:34:56Z /* Election */ more usual citation rendering
  18 2018-04-26T15:20:51Z Corbyn's defence was certainly implied
  19 2018-04-26T12:10:46Z probably because it is clearly irrelevant & unsourced (in this location), the claims of "smear" are already mentioned in the summary
  20 2018-04-22T13:23:47Z /* Corbyn and an allegedly antisemitic mural */ spelling
  21 2018-04-22T13:22:05Z /* Reported events */ consensus on the talk page is beyond "allegations", but as "incidents" can have a criminal insinuation, I have substituted an alternative rather than restoring the previous heading
  22 2018-04-22T13:14:22Z /* Corbyn and an antisemetic mural */ when the only counter argument, previously cited, comes from the antisemitic Gilad Atzmon (an assertion commonly disputed by people with the same revolting attitudes), "allegedly" is best avoided
  23 2018-04-22T13:04:42Z /* Allegations */ ce
  24 2018-04-22T12:55:35Z /* Corbyn and an allegedly antisemetic mural */ source is inadmissible as a [[WP:IRS|blog]], quite apart from being the bile of Gilad Atzmon
  25 2018-04-19T07:53:37Z /* Jewdas Passover event */ not relevant POV, the blog was accurate
  26 2018-04-08T21:01:40Z rm "Roy Smart suspended" section, several council candidates have been suspended, no reason to preference this one - but the Alan Bull incident was notable
  27 2018-04-08T20:44:53Z /* Roy Smart suspended */ rm tabloid source
  28 2018-04-08T19:56:24Z multiple letters with a similar argument, no reason to include any as this length; one use of the McCarthyism argument & Corbyn being a "lifelong anti-racist" should suffice
  29 2018-04-06T09:33:16Z /* Jewdas Passover event */ full citation
  30 2018-04-06T09:31:19Z /* Jewdas Passover event */ full citation
  31 2018-04-06T09:28:21Z /* Jewdas Passover event */ rm surplus source
  32 2018-04-06T09:27:10Z /* Jewdas Passover event */ citation fmt
  33 2018-04-06T09:25:10Z /* Jewdas Passover event */ ce
  34 2018-04-06T09:24:52Z /* Jewdas Passover event */ on this occasion the Guido Fawkes blog was correct, its politics are covered in the Paul Staines article
  35 2018-04-04T07:38:32Z /* Pro-Corbyn Facebook groups containing antisemitic content */ ce
  36 2018-04-04T07:36:32Z following what sources specify
  37 2018-04-02T21:16:35Z /* Rebuttals */ only a small minority are professors, so the word "senior" is unjustified
  38 2018-04-02T21:14:30Z /* Rebuttals */ generous interpretation of the source, also clearly wrong given some highly publicised cases which have not been dealt with, council candidates, Shawcroft's serious error of judgement, etc
  39 2018-04-02T20:46:16Z possibly appropriate for the JVL article, but a fringe source here
  40 2018-04-02T09:43:54Z /* Pro-Corbyn Facebook groups containing antisemitic content */ 'work' parameter is quite sufficient
  41 2018-04-02T09:40:53Z /* Public perceptions */ rm redirect
  42 2018-04-02T09:39:44Z /* Conference */ no other direct link
  43 2018-04-02T09:37:28Z /* Pro-Corbyn Facebook groups containing antisemitic content */ not "violence" directly
  44 2018-04-02T09:36:05Z /* Pro-Corbyn Facebook groups containing antisemitic content */ the ource says "messages", which can contain images as well as comments
  45 2018-04-02T09:34:36Z /* Pro-Corbyn Facebook groups containing antisemitic content */ the phrase used in the source is "restricted access", Facebook itself uses terms such as "closed access" for groups which require permissions to join
  46 2018-04-02T09:30:08Z /* Pro-Corbyn Facebook groups containing antisemitic content */ minor rewrite so as not to include copy & paste material
  47 2018-04-02T09:27:52Z /* Pro-Corbyn Facebook groups containing antisemitic content */ ce
  48 2018-04-02T09:24:47Z /* Pro-Corbyn Facebook groups containing antisemitic content */ ce
  49 2018-04-02T09:22:15Z /* Pro-Corbyn Facebook groups containing antisemitic content */ full citation
  50 2018-04-02T08:30:11Z /* Pro-Corbyn Facebook groups containing antisemitic content */ hyphen tends not to be used on WP
  51 2018-04-02T08:29:18Z /* Pro-Corbyn Facebook groups containing antisemitic content */ fs
  52 2018-04-02T08:29:04Z /* Pro-Corbyn Facebook groups containing antisemitic content */ ce
  53 2018-04-02T08:27:31Z /* Pro-Corbyn Facebook groups containing antisemitic content */ ce
  54 2018-04-02T08:27:07Z /* Pro-Corbyn Facebook groups containing antisemitic content */ ce
  55 2018-04-02T08:26:05Z /* Pro-Corbyn Facebook groups containing antisemitic content */ ce
  56 2018-04-02T08:25:37Z /* Pro-Corbyn Facebook groups containing antisemitic content */ ce
  57 2018-04-02T08:24:55Z /* Pro-Corbyn Facebook groups containing antisemitic content */ ce
  58 2018-03-30T20:01:34Z Undid revision 833310384 by [[Special:Contributions/86.159.168.244|86.159.168.244]] ([[User talk:86.159.168.244|talk]]) not really known by its title
  59 2018-03-29T09:00:27Z /* 1980s; claimed origin of antisemitic attitudes */ no reason to mention this individual at all
  60 2018-03-29T08:59:06Z /* 1980s; claimed origin of antisemitic attitudes */ not really relevant, the "smear" argument is mentioned directly elsewhere
  61 2018-03-27T16:22:56Z Undid revision 832715735 by [[Special:Contributions/Slatersteven|Slatersteven]] ([[User talk:Slatersteven|talk]]) no that's obviously a fresh development
  62 2018-03-27T16:15:04Z rvt, nothing new here, Corbyn himself has used the "zero-tolerance" construction on multiple occasions; his "militant opponent" claim might be added, however, because it is self-evidently ridiculous after 2 and a half years of comparative inaction & frothy assertions
  63 2018-03-26T07:54:32Z /* Corbyn and an antisemitic mural */ as the artist was explicit in certain contexts, "denied" (or "allegedly" antisemitic) is not totally accurate
  64 2018-03-24T13:18:28Z /* Facebook groups about Palestine */ modified heading, it's the nature of the two groups which are at issue
  65 2018-03-24T13:11:51Z /* Facebook dossier */ Corbyn was a member of the second Facebook group for 3-4 years
  66 2018-03-24T13:08:56Z /* Facebook dossier */ ce
  67 2018-03-24T13:07:13Z /* Facebook dossier */ paywalled, but the main information is accessible
  68 2018-03-24T13:06:21Z /* Facebook dossier */ ce
  69 2018-03-24T13:04:58Z /* Facebook dossier */ + source + quote for doubters; he left the second Facebook group on 21 March 2018 as the media were becoming attentive
  70 2018-03-24T11:40:32Z /* Corbyn and an East end mural */ an apology = sorry; Corbyn has merely expressed regret
  71 2018-03-24T11:01:06Z /* 2018 */ + Karen Pollock of HET; this issue is becoming at least as important as the Facebook groups earlier in the month & the direct connection of Labour's leader to this development is undeniable
  72 2018-03-24T10:53:47Z /* 2018 */ sub-headings
  73 2018-03-24T09:24:48Z /* 2018 */ ce
  74 2018-03-24T09:24:10Z /* 2018 */ ce
  75 2018-03-24T09:00:52Z /* 2018 */ ce
  76 2018-03-24T08:59:53Z /* 2018 */ expanded passage with more explanation & relevant links
  77 2018-03-23T19:30:01Z the source is not used here because of Corbyn's former Facebook allegiances
  78 2018-03-23T19:13:04Z + source
  79 2018-03-23T16:50:43Z /* 2018 */ ce
  80 2018-03-23T16:48:58Z /* 2018 */ + spokesman in 2018
  81 2018-03-23T16:46:43Z /* 2018 */ Corbyn's comment on mural in 2012
  82 2018-03-23T16:35:59Z ce
  83 2018-03-14T18:13:41Z /* 2018 */ no article, link was to hndis page
  84 2018-03-09T12:57:35Z /* Incidents */ rm surplus full stop
  85 2018-03-09T12:57:10Z /* Incidents */ + source for an announced inquiry which did not take place
  86 2018-03-08T17:29:37Z /* 2018 */ full citation
  87 2018-03-08T12:21:07Z /* 2018 */ internal link
  88 2018-03-08T12:20:20Z /* 2018 */ ce
  89 2018-03-08T12:19:40Z /* 2018 */ ce
  90 2018-03-08T12:15:59Z rm duplicate links
  91 2018-03-08T11:59:23Z /* 2018 */ proper formatting
  92 2018-03-08T11:52:34Z /* 2018 */ no need to mention Jackie Walker indirectly
  93 2018-03-08T11:39:11Z /* 2018 */ ce
  94 2018-03-08T11:36:50Z /* 2018 */ ce
  95 2018-03-08T11:30:30Z /* 2018 */ + further source
  96 2018-03-08T10:48:30Z /* 2018 */ ce
  97 2018-03-08T10:47:08Z /* 2018 */ + source1
  98 2018-03-08T10:44:40Z moved passage to correct place in the chronology
  99 2017-12-29T17:16:03Z unsoured, vague
 100 2017-12-29T12:21:47Z /* 2015 */ nitpick, but [[Stephen Sizer]] and [[Raed Salah]] are not especially "well known"
 101 2017-12-29T12:20:06Z /* 2015 */ "antisemitic" isn't a claim made in the current source (though it often made) or "violent", terrorist being a common description of both Hamas and Hezbollah which has RSs & official acceptation
 102 2017-12-29T12:12:23Z /* 1980s; claimed origin of antisemitic attitudes */ ce
 103 2017-12-29T12:10:05Z possibly not the best source, but a common enough accusation for inclusion
 104 2017-12-29T11:58:56Z /* 1980s; claimed origin of antisemitic attitudes */ ce
 105 2017-12-29T11:52:36Z /* 1980s; claimed origin of antisemitic attitudes */ ce
 106 2017-12-29T11:36:04Z /* 1980s; claimed origin of antisemitic attitudes */ ce
 107 2017-12-29T11:34:33Z /* 1980s; claimed origin of antisemitic attitudes */ + source
 108 2017-12-29T11:27:50Z /* 1980s; claimed origin of antisemitic attitudes */ not sure if the parenthetical references are relevant, they overload the text (Mayhew switched to the Liberals in 1974, not 1984)
 109 2017-12-14T09:14:52Z ce
 110 2017-12-11T17:01:13Z /* Public perceptions */ + {{subscription required}} template
 111 2017-12-10T14:46:57Z ce
 112 2017-12-10T14:30:54Z /* Rebuttals */ presumably McCluskey believes his own statement
 113 2017-12-10T14:28:26Z /* Conference */ ce
 114 2017-12-10T14:26:29Z /* Public perceptions */ + author credit sequence as in the source
 115 2017-12-10T14:23:38Z /* Public perceptions */ + original source by three notable writers
 116 2017-12-10T14:18:07Z /* Public perceptions */ rm irrelevance
 117 2017-12-10T14:12:40Z /* 2016 inquiries */ ce
 118 2017-12-10T14:08:25Z /* 2015 */ ce
 119 2017-12-10T14:07:47Z /* 2015 */ ce
 120 2017-12-10T14:06:26Z /* History */ ce
 121 2017-12-10T14:05:42Z /* History */ ce
 122 2017-12-10T14:01:22Z /* History */ obviously the party leadership's approach has changed several times over the past thirty-five years
 123 2017-12-10T13:58:38Z /* History */ Greenstein has only ever been an activist
 124 2017-12-10T13:52:11Z ce
 125 2017-12-10T13:49:56Z /* Election */ ce