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GARY BERNARD SCULL

Vietnam vet harlan ia

MAJ - O4 - Army - Reserve MACV Advisors

His tour began on Mar 12, 1970 Casualty was on Oct 16, 1978 In QUANG TRI, SOUTH VIETNAM Hostile, died while missing, GROUND CASUALTY Body was not recovered

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http://www.icwest.com/tc/scull.htm

http://www.taskforceomegainc.org/S156.htm

http://www.angelfire.com/ia/estabant/scull.html

http://www.mishalov.com/Battle_Khe_Gio.html

http://www.icwest.com/tc/scull.htm

SCULL, GARY BERNARD

Rank/Branch:O1/US Army Country of Loss: South Vietnam Unit: Advance Team 3, MACV Loss Coordinates: 164656N 1065415E (YD029563) Date of Birth: 26 September 1940 (Washington DC) Status(in 1973): Missing In Action Category : 2 Home City of Record: Harlan IA Acft/Vehicle/Ground: Ground Refno: 1572 Loss Date: 12 March 1970 Other Personnel In Incident: (none missing)

REMARKS: Compiled from one or more of the following: raw data from U.S. Government agency sources, correspondence with POW/MIA families, published sources, interviews. Updated by the P.O.W. NETWORK in 1998. Synopsis:

On March 12, 1970 2Lt. Gary B. Scull was serving as assistant battalion advisor to the ARVN 2nd Battalion, 2nd Regiment. On March 11, 2Lt. Scull had been assigned to an ARVN outpost which was responsible for guarding the Khe Gio Bridge south of Khe Sanh nar the Laos border. The outpost was protected by 1 U.S. manned M42 self-propelled anti-aircraft vehicles.

At about 0125 hours, the outpost came under enemy attack with Scull's bunker being hit and catching fire. After the attack started, no one saw Scull, although an ARVN officer and one of the U.S. crewmen attempted to locate him on separate occasions. At 0415 hours, the surviving U.S. soldiers evacuated the outpost.

At 0700 hours, an ARVN company with U.S. advisors retook the outpost and made a search of the area for survivors and remains, but no sign of Scull was found.

In December 1974, a NVA rallier reported that in June 1971 he saw a U.S. POW in the vicinity of the outpost. The rallier's description of the POW and the circumstances of capture of the POW match the incident involving Scull and the attack on the outpost.

Although intelligence analysts believe this report "matches" Scull's loss information, he is not classified as a Prisoner of War, but as Missing In Action.

Since 1975, nearly 10,000 reports relating to Americans missing, prisoner or unaccounted for in Vietnam have reached U.S. authorities. Based on the information in these reports, most experts believe that Americans are still alive today, held against their will in Indochina.

Scull's fate remains unclear. If he was captured that day, he could be alive still, wondering why his country has abandoned him.

http://www.taskforceomegainc.org/S156.htm

SCULL, GARY BERNARD  

By Task Force Omega Inc.

SYNOPSIS:  

On 11 March 1970, then 2nd Lt. Gary B. Scull was assigned as an Assistant Battalion Advisor to the Army of the Republic of Vietnam (ARVN) 2nd Battalion, 2nd Regiment. On 12 March, Gary Scull was serving at an ARVN outpost that was responsible for guarding the Khe Gio Bridge located on the east side of a heavily forested mountain range approximately 11 miles west-southwest of Dong Ha, 13 miles northeast of Khe Sanh and 18 miles west of Quang Tri City, Quang Tri Province, South Vietnam. In addition to the normal complement of personnel assigned to the outpost, it was protected by 1 US manned M42 self-propelled anti-aircraft artillery vehicle along with the standard issue of small arms, mortars, grenades, etc.

At approximately 0125 hours, the outpost came under attack from an unknown size NVA force. 2nd Lt. Scull's forward observation bunker was hit twice by enemy mortar fire and burst into flames. After the attack started, no one saw Gary Scull, although an ARVN officer and one of the US crewmen of the anti-aircraft artillery vehicle attempted to locate him on separate occasions. At 0415 hours, the outpost was declared undefendable and the surviving American and ARVN soldiers evacuated the outpost by preplanned escape and evasion routes.

At 0700 hours, an ARVN company with US advisors retook the outpost. After securing the outpost's perimeter, the company made a thorough search of the area. In addition to looking for both survivors and remains of their dead, they located and disarmed booby traps left behind by the communists. During their extensive search, they found no trace of 2nd Lt. Scull either alive or dead in or around the forward observation bunker or any other part of the compound. At the time the formal search effort was terminated, Gary Scull was listed Missing in Action.

In December 1974, a NVA rallier reported to US intelligence that in June 1971 he saw an American POW in the vicinity of the outpost. The rallier's description of the POW, along with the circumstances of capture, matched the incident involving Gary Scull and the attack on the ARVN outpost. A thorough analysis of this information led US intelligence analysts to the conclusion this report "matches" the missing advisor's loss information.

ARY BERNARD SCULL

Vietnam vet harlan ia

MAJ - O4 - Army - Reserve MACV Advisors

His tour began on Mar 12, 1970 Casualty was on Oct 16, 1978 In QUANG TRI, SOUTH VIETNAM Hostile, died while missing, GROUND CASUALTY Body was not recovered

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more info at: http://thewall-usa.com/info.asp?recid=46452

http://www.angelfire.com/ia/estabant/scull.html no new data

http://www.mishalov.com/Battle_Khe_Gio.html

The Battle at Khe Gio Bridge

Location Coordinates: 164656N 1065415E (YD029563)

By Don Wittenberger ( Dwitt546@aol.com )

The U.S. Army outpost at Khe Gio Bridge on Highway 9 near the DMZ was overrun by North Vietnamese troops on 12 March 1970. Of the 14 Americans who fought in this battle, 2 were killed, 5 wounded, and 1 captured. The ARVN garrison had 6 dead and 9 wounded. The NVA lost about 40 men.

From a tactical perspective, the attackers neither damaged the bridge nor dislodged the garrison. But the enemy's real objective was to inflict American casualties, in the hope of hastening the U.S. withdrawal already underway in northern I Corps, and in pursuit of an overall strategy to win the war in America's living rooms. To this end, the NVA would accept high relative losses.

In another context, the U.S. losses comprised 9% of the 33 Americans killed in Vietnam this day. The enemy profited more, without cost, from the loss of 14 men of the 25th Infantry Division in a non-hostile helicopter accident later in the day. But every loss devastated the families and communities back home and increased the cumulative effect on the U.S. populace, which was growing tired of losing sons.

The enemy's plan was to sneak into the perimeter, pin down the defenders with rocket and mortar fire, and kill them in the bunkers with grenades and explosives. The strength of the assaulting force was in the range of 150 to 400 troops. For the 11 U.S. survivors, 4 of whom would have died if a squad leader had not sacrificed himself to save them from a grenade, it was a terrifying experience.

The U.S. casualties were:

2d Lt. Gary Bernard Scull, 30, Advance Team 3, MACV, from Harlan, Iowa, assistant advisor to the 2/2 ARVN Regiment, who by a stroke of incredible bad luck arrived at the bridge only a few hours before it was attacked. He had been in Vietnam since November 1969.

Sgt. Mitchell William Stout, 20, C Battery, 1/44 Artillery, from Lenoir City, Tennessee, who was five weeks into his second Vietnam tour, having served previously with 1st Platoon, B/2/47 (Mech), 9th Infantry Division.

Sp/4 Terry Lee Moser, 21, also of C/1/44, from Barto, Pennsylvania (a suburb of Philadelphia), who had been in Vietnam nine months and undoubtedly was looking forward to going home.

Except for Lt. Scull, the U.S. personnel were from 1/44, an Air Defense Artillery (ADA) battalion attached to 108th Artillery Group and headquartered at 3rd Marine Division's large base (pop. 30,000) near the village of Dong Ha on Highway 1 north of Quang Tri City. Lt. Col. Richard L. Myers and Capt. Douglas Mehle were the commanding officers of 1/44 and C Battery, respectively.

After Khe Sanh was deactivated in 1967, Highway 9 beyond Camp Carroll was kept open to support operations in northwestern I Corps. Khe Gio Bridge, about 20 miles west of Dong Ha, one of 49 bridges on this road, was guarded by two dusters from C/1/44, a searchlight from G/29 (a 1/44 line battery), and 40 or so men of the 2/2 ARVN Regiment. Getting there wasn't easy because the road went through rugged country, had to be swept for mines, and was subject to ambushes. I made this trip on 28 Sept 1969 and 5 April 1970 riding with a couple tons of ammunition and watching artillery rounds impacting along the road ahead of us.

To protect the bridge, the weapons and camp had to abut the road, which followed the low topography through the hilly terrain, giving the high ground advantage to the enemy. Wooded ridges concealed their advance, provided mortar positions looking down on the target, and masked the line-of-sight fire from our dusters. The living quarters occupied a small compound on a hill above a road-cut through a ridge. Vehicles could get up there by a short access road. On the opposite side, an easy slope fell to the river which could be waded nearly everywhere. The defenses consisted of a "cow fence" and apron with limited concertina and some trip flares in the wire. I felt the place was exposed, and have been reminded of it every time I've seen the movie "Apocalypse Now".

The duster was a powerful weapon. It could fire 240 explosive rounds per minutes to an effective range of 2,000 yards, and unlike field artillery, could rapidly shift fires to engage moving targets. Although obsolete as anti-aircraft weaponry, and not needed in Vietnam for air defense, it was ideal for smashing ground attacks, thus in demand for protecting truck convoys and small firebases such as Khe Gio Bridge. Duster crews had plenty of confidence in their weapon, and the men at the bridge expected the dusters to deter attacks.

The weather in early March was scorching and humid with dense fog at night. During the night of March 7, artillery at Quang Tri shot aerial flares to mark a flight path for a medevac mission up north near Gio Linh; the night of March 12 was foggy again, and the NVA columns approaching the bridge were aided by poor visibility. They walked into the camp, reached occupied structures, and were climbing through windows and doors when our guys awoke and began shooting from their bunks.

Back at Dong Ha, I was in the radio shack with RTO John Goss when Khe Gio's perimeter exploded and he received the first distress calls from the bridge. The frantic voice, heavy explosions, and stuttering gunfire mingled with radio static are forever etched in my memory. The time was 1:30 a.m., and nobody at battalion headquarters would get any more sleep that night.

The NVA had set up a dozen or more rocket pads and mortar tubes in the surrounding hills, and when the firing began inside the camp, they laid a barrage which killed many of their own men but also pinned the defenders inside the bunkers. A letter I wrote later that day, after hearing four survivors tell their story, states "the rain of shells was so heavy no one could go outside without being killed instantly."

Sgt. Stout, in a bunker down by the road with Jimmy Silva and Robert E. Foster of C/1/44 and Richard E. Dunn and John H. Laughridge of G/29, picked up an enemy grenade and carried it outside where it exploded at the same time a mortar round landed nearby. He died instantly, but this act spared the four other men, who all survived the war and made it home. Moser was killed by a mortar burst during this intense bombardment as he sprinted across open ground for a duster.

There were two dusters at the bridge, but an RPG destroyed one before it could be manned. The other got into action after the incoming fire slackened but one of its guns jammed immediately. So the battle was fought with only one of the four 40mm Bofors guns counted on for the defense of the camp. The crew fired until the barrel burned out, which probably didn't take very long, because with NVA running everywhere and mortars firing from numerous emplacements, it's a safe bet they were slamming shells into their only gun as fast as they could and firing automatic.

During the night, Headquarters Battery was assembled and 50 men were recruited for a reaction force. We were 104 enlisted strength at the time, and all stepped forward. Venturing into pitch darkness to confront enemy forces of unknown strength is nobody's idea of a good time, but we'd go wherever our guys were in trouble, it's real basic. The reaction force got ready but never left Dong Ha because the embattled survivors saved themselves.

With both dusters out of action, the camp could no longer be defended, so the C/1/44 men shot their way out and fled to Camp Carroll two miles away. Some escaped on a deuce-and-a-half, whose driver had been hit and slumped unconscious over the wheel upon getting there. Someone drove the duster through the camp under fire picking up wounded, then crashed the perimeter at Camp Carroll, where the vehicle was seen in the morning draped with barbed wire. The battle had lasted three hours, and the enemy hurried off the battlefield leaving some of their dead, as they wanted to get away before daylight brought jets and gunships.

An officer's daily log entry by Major David W. Wagner, the S-3, identifies the dusters in the battle as C-122 and C-142. The destroyed duster probably was C-122, which is recorded in unit records as a "total loss," so the fighting duster (and the one reaching Camp Carroll) must have been C-142, which was booked as "salvage" and used for parts.

An ARVN company with U.S. advisers who reached the camp at 0700 searched in vain for signs of Lt. Scull. A detail from Dong Ha arriving at 0845 reported finding "enemy 14 KIA and still counting." My letter states they recovered 17 NVA bodies and estimated from drag marks that 40 enemy troops died inside the perimeter. This number is based on statements made to me by witnesses. I've heard claims, then and recently, that ARVNs had shot at Americans; but when the battlefield was seen in daylight, ARVN and NVA bodies were found on top of each other, indicating they had fought to the death in hand-to-hand struggles. The camp itself was a shambles and had to be completely rebuilt.

I visited Khe Gio Bridge again three weeks after the battle. It was considerably beefed up with more wire, especially concertina, overhead cover for gun pits, and two replacement dusters. The tenants were understandably nervous, but this was locking the barn after the horse is gone. The NVA did not risk impulsive attacks; they spent weeks or months planning and rehearsing this type of operation. At that moment, Khe Gio Bridge probably was the safest place in I Corps.

We eventually turned it over to the ARVNs, who ran like hell, and the NVA recorded their deed without a fight. You can go there as a tourist now, but Highway 9 is still primitive and infrequently traveled. The wartime bridge and camp are gone. I don't know if there is any trace of the battle, but I'm tempted to wonder whether ghosts of the 48 people who died there return on dark, foggy nights.

The survivors who returned to Dong Ha on March 12 thought Lt. Scull was killed in the fight, but an ARVN officer reported his bunker was hit and on fire, and he was led away by NVA soldiers. U.S. intelligence analysts concluded that a report by a former NVA officer in December 1974 about a U.S. POW he saw in June 1971 matched Lt. Scull's disappearance in terms of description and incident. Nothing else has been learned of his fate. On October 16, 1978, the U.S. Government changed Lt. Scull's status from "missing" to "died while missing" and upgraded his rank to Major, as was always done for MIAs to maximize government benefits to their families. He is survived by his mother and sister. A memorial web site and photo may be seen at http://www.flash.net/~azgecko/scull.htm

Rumors started circulating at 1/44 headquarters before the sun had set on the day of battle that Sgt. Stout would be recommended for the Medal of Honor. Lt. Col. Myers signed the paperwork, and Jack Stout and Faye Thomas went to Blair House on July 17, 1974, during the last days of the Nixon Administration, to accept their son's medal from Vice President Ford. Jack Stout donated it in 1991 to the National Medal of Honor Museum, where it is on permanent display. Buddy White, a childhood friend, organized a fundraising drive and Mitch's home town built a hero's monument over his grave. A major building at Fort Bliss is named for him, along with the I-75 bridge across the Tennessee River and the Mitchell W. Stout Medal of Honor Memorial Golf Tournament, an annual event in Lenoir City. He also is survived by two sisters. A memorial web page may be seen at http://members.tripod.com/~msg_fisher/moh.html

I am seeking information about Sp/4 Terry Moser.

I'm proud to have served in 1/44 with the men who fought at Khe Gio Bridge and other battles in the Vietnam War's most honored artillery battalion. My time with them shaped my character and life.

Sources and acknowledgements:

The author served with HHB/1/44 as the intelligence and operations clerk and other duties as assigned from April 1969 to May 1970. The author's letter of March 12, 1970 describing the battle is a primary source of material for this article; a copy has been donated to the National Medal of Honor Museum. The author was a newspaper reporter before the war and for the last 25 years has been a lawyer residing in Seattle, Washington.

The following individuals cooperated in providing information, photographs, and contacts:

Gary Puro of the National Dusters, Quads, and Searchlights Association; Ed Hooper of the Tennessee Star Journal and National Medal of Honor Museum; the Harlan (Iowa) Tribune News, Col. Dave Althoff (USAF, retired), Harold "Doc" Peterson (2/47 Mech, 9th Infantry Division), M/Sgt Danny L. Fisher (USA, Retired), John Goss (HHB/1/44), Ben Johnson and Windell Crowell (C/1/44) (military ranks are given where known).

I sincerely apologize if I inadvertently left anyone out. Research of this story is an ongoing project and anyone knowing the names of battle participants, possessing photographs of the camp and battle area, or any information about the battle is encouraged to contact the author at Dwitt546@aol.com

Copyright © 1999 by Don Wittenberger, All Rights Reserved

Brief excerpts may be quoted for non-profit educational, scholarly, or historical purposes.

Any commercial use of this material without written permission is prohibited.

http://www.dtic.mil/dpmo/pmsea/HTML/PMSEA_INFOS_V/pmsea_info_s156.htm
SERVICE: US ARMY ( Complete Service Report )
RANK: O1
STATUS: XX - PRESUMPTIVE FINDING OF DEATH
DATE OF INCIDENT: 1970/03/12
HOME OF RECORD: HARLAN, IA ( Complete State Report )
COUNTRY OF LOSS: S. VIETNAM
VEHICLE TYPE: GROUND

Think Lt. Gary Scull being held prisoner
Harlan News Advertiser June 8, 1970

Lt. Gary Scull, 29, son of Mrs Elaine Scull, Harlan, is still listed as "missing in action" and is presumed to be a prisoner of war, according to his mother.

She recently received a second letter from the Army listing details of his disappearance. That letter read as follows: "On 12 March 1970, Gary and his unit were in a defensive position securing KHE-GIO Bridge on route 9 some six miles south of the Demilitarized Zone. At approximately 0100 hours 12 March, their position was attacked by an unknown size enemy force."

"At the initiation of the attack Gary was located in the Advisor's bunker which received a direct hit by enemy direct and indirect fire causing it to burst into flames. The ARVN soldiers fought gallantly and gave their lives in fierce hand-to-hand combat while driving the enemy from their position. Following the attack a search was made of Gary's bunker which was burning but partially standing."

"Neither Gary nor his military radio were in the bunker. A thorough search at first light was made and individuals within the defensive position were questioned with no posftive results. A helicopter equipped with an aerial loudspeaker system and troops were employed with no success."

"A formal investigation at this time (April 19) indicates that Gary is still missing in action."

Mrs Scull has mailed this information in a letter to a list of friends of her son, that he had compiled in case something should happen to him, she said.

Lt. Scull is a 1958 graduate of Harlan high school and a 1962 graduate of Bethel CDllege in 8t. Paul, Minn. He entered the Army in April, 1968 and left for Vietnam November, 1969. Another Shelby countian, Alan Piittmann, Shelby, is still listed as "missing in action" in Vietnam. He disappeared there in November, 1963.

photo of LT. GARY SCULL in CIVILLIAN CLOTHES

Names of county men aren't on first list
Harlan Tribune Feb 1, 1973

Names of the two Shelby county men officially listed as "missing in action" were not on the first list released by the Viet cong after the peace agreements were signed last weekend, and neither family has heard anything new regarding the fate of their sons.

Raymond Piittnann, Shelby, whose son Alan was reported missing in action over Laos nearly seven years ago, had another "angle" thrown at him this week. At last report, the North Vietnamese have made no mention of those men captured or killed in Laos and Cambodian action and the U.S. Government has not indicated whether they would be able to get such a list, or'a return of those prisoners.

Mrs. Elaine Scull, whose son Gary was reported missing in action in South Vietnam three years ago, knows only that her son's name was not on the first list released.

Even that list of names doesn't "jive" with U.S. reports, as some 56 men listed as POWs by the US aren't listed by the Viet congo In the meantime, hoping and praying continues.

Hopes high after peace agreement-
MIA's from county hoped alive;
if prisoners, could be home soon

Harlan News Advertizer Jan 29,1973

The recent announcement of Vietnam peace and return of all prisoners of war had special meaning for two Shelby county fantilies and their hopes for the return of their sons, still officially listed as "missing in action."

The key to the president's message for Raymond Piittmann, Shelby, and Mrs Elaine Scull, Harlan, was that North Vietnam had agreed to return all prisoners "without delay," and mention was made of trying to collect records to indicate the fate of all the currently listed MIA's.

Cap't. Gary Scull of Harlan was reported missing in March, 1970. In a letter received from the Army, these details were given:

"On 12 March 1970, Gary and his unit were in a defensive position securing KHE-GIO Bridge on Rt. 9, some six miles south of the Demilitarized Zone. At approximatley 0100 hours, 12 March, their position was attacked by an unknown size enemy force."

"At the initiation of the attack; Gary was located in the advisor's bunker which received a direct hit by enemy direct and indirect fire, causing it to burst into flames. The ARVN soldiers fought gallantly and gave their lives in fierce hand-to-hand combat while driving the enemy from their position. Following the attack, a search was made of Gary's bunker which was burning, but partially standing."

"Neither Gary nor his military radio were in the bunker. A thorough searc!-. a: first 1...igit was IIJ..S.de a.:J.d lL­dividuals within the defensive position were questioned with no positive results. A helicopter equipped with an aerial loudspeaker and troops were employed with no success."

Scull was 29 when he was reported missing action. A 1958 graduate of Harlan high school and a 1962 graduate of Bethel College in St. Paul, Minn., he entered the Army in April, 1968.

ALAN PIITTMANN

T. Sgt. Alan Piittmann was shot down over Laos in 1966 . A graduate of Shelby-Tennant high school in 1963, he enlisted a short time later. A mechanic stationed. in Thailand, he was one of three persons. aboard an Air Force plane dropping leaflets over Laos when one of the engines was hit by anti-aircraft fire.

The pilot and co-pilot had Alan, who would be 27 in March, parachute from the decending plane first. They saw his chute open and Alan made a good landing in the jungles of Laos before the others jumped out.

Several hours larer, a rescue helicopter picked up the pilot and co-pilot. When they went for Alan, the helicopter was hit by fire and forced to make a quick exit. Since then Sgt. Piittmann has been missing' in action.

It has been an especially rough six years for the Piittmann family. About three years ago, Mrs Piittmann died and only two weeks ago the Piittmann home burned to the ground.

Both parents have attended special Air Force and Army briefings and have attempted to gain some word of their sons. but both had no luck.

Hope now lies in Li}e announcement that "the return or all captured persons ... shall be completed. within 60 days of the signing of the agreement." Details of the agreement call for transfer of prisoners about every 15 days, beginning on or about Feb. 11, 15 days after the sigring last Saturday.

Most released prisoners of war will be flown to selected U.S. hospitals and their parents will be flown to the same hospital to meet them, according to recent reports.

Both parents agree, after years of "not knowing, going through hell," they still are waiting - and praying. Mrs Scull added. "We've had a number of false hopes, including the October announcements. I hope and pray that he's a prisoner, and alive."

Capt. Scull presumed dead in Vietnam
Harlan News Advertiser Nov 6,1978

Army Capt. Gary Scull, formerly of Shelby County, was determined to be presumed dead in Vietnam on Oct. 16, 1978.

Scull was listed as missing in action on March 12, 1970, wbile he was serving with the MACV (Military Assistance Command Vietnam) Advisory Team No. 3 in the Quang Tri area of the Republic of Vietnam.

He graduated from Harlan Comunity High School in 1958 and from Bethel College, St. Paul, Minn., in 1962. He entered the Army in April 1968 and served at Fort Lewis, Wash., before being assigned to Vietnam in November, 1969.

The change in his status is part of the government's overall effort to clear up the cases of those who were not accounted for.

Memorial services for Scull will be 2 p.m., Nov. 11 in Bethel Baptist Church, Harlan.

Surviving are his mother, Elaine Scull and a sister, Janice Undem of Lexington, Mass.

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• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Guide_to_administrator_intervention_against_vandalism (need to review)
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• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Five_pillars
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Medicaid Estate recovery

Medicaid_Estate_Recovery_Mandate is a redlink in the medicaid article.

It is cited at Medicaid#cite_note-18 with a link to http://aspe.hhs.gov/daltcp/reports/estaterec.htm

Under what circumstances is a state not permitted to enforce a lien?

A lien may not be enforced, and the house may not be sold to pay for Medicaid benefits under the following circumstances:

• there is a living spouse (no matter where he or she lives);
• there is a child who is under age 21, or is blind or disabled (no matter where he or she lives);
• there is a brother or sister with an equity interest who lived in the home for the year immediately prior to the nursing home admission (but only if the sibling has continuously lived in the home since that date);
• there is a non-disabled adult child who had lived in the home at least two years immediately prior to a parent's admission to a nursing home, and was providing care that delayed admission (but only if the adult child has lived continuously in the home since that date).

Questions and Answers on Medicaid Estate Recovery for Long-Term Care Under OBRA '93 Research Report Faith Mullen, AARP Public Policy Institute September 1996 http://www.aarp.org/research/assistance/medicaid/aresearch-import-629-D16443.html

Greenridge future article

• Harlan tribune article
• steamtraction.com
• steamtraction.com
• [http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=20138089&BRD=901&PAG=461&dept_id=130069&rfi=6

Harlan tribune article]

check [:category:farm show] if there is one

probably should go into iowa section

What about articles in Omaha World Herald or Des Moines Register

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07 No_More_Mr._Nice_Guy_(House)

copyedited 07:51, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

08 Mackinac_Island_Press

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• This article may require cleanup to meet Wikipedia's quality standards. Please improve this article if you can. (August 2007)

03:09, 22 October 2008 m (4,119 bytes) (converted in-line links into references)
04:34, 22 October 2008 (4,115 bytes) (changed some peacock wording, italicized the names of books, fact tag)
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09 Broström_procedure

deorphaned

10 Hydro_excavation

categorized, wikify- added reference section still needs deorphaning 10:58, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

11 Cheerleading#Famous Former Cheerleaders

Citations needed

• 01:43, 31 October 2008 →Famous Former Cheerleaders: citations needed for Paula Abdul, Robin Williams, Tom Hanks, Ali Larter, Rpma;d RegamX. Franklin RooseveltX, Dwight EisenhowerX Remember, names without sources/citations)
• 17:58, 30 October 2008 (?Famous Former Cheerleaders: citation needed on Bon Scott, Rachael Ray, Cameron Diaz, Angus Young, Eddie Van Halen, Steve MartinX, Meryl Streep) checked to george bush
• 09:54, 30 October 2008 (?Famous Former Cheerleaders: citation needed on: Felicity Pollard, , Tina Turner, Rihanna, Paula Deanda, Ciara, Tiffany Pollard, Allie DiMeco)
• 09:21, 30 October 2008 (Famous Former Cheerleaders/ citation needed on Tommy Lee, Flavor Flav)
• See also its talk page
• http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2006/mar/15/ussport.stevenwells "Dwight D. Eisenhower, Franklin D Roosevelt, Jimmy Stewart, Michael Douglas, Samuel L Jackson, Steve Martin and George Bush senior were all teenage cheerleaders." Retrieved 1 NOVEMBER 2008
• http://cheerleading.about.com/od/famouscheerleaders/Famous_Cheerleaders.htm RETRIEVED 1 NOVEMBER 2008 Paula Abdul, Halle Berry, Sandra Bullock, George W. Bush, Deana Carter, Thad Cochran, Katie Couric, Jamie Lee Curtis, Michael Douglas, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Sally Field, Calista Flockhart, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Terri Hatcher, Samuel L. Jackson, Trent Lott, Madonna, Steve Martin, Mandy Moore, Reba McEntire, Franklin D Roosevelt, Cybill Shepperd, Alicia Silverstone, Aaron Spelling, Jimmy Stewart, Meryl Streep, Raquel Welch, Vanna White
• 21:46, 3 November 2008 (UTC) added references to those currently on list and made comment in talk.

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• Revision history of Talk:Cheerleading 16:25, 5 November 2008 (30,163 bytes) (?Famous Cheerleaders section: Removed the section on famous cheerleaders and added them to the separate list article. There seems to be so many that it just clutters up this article. Any persons)
• Revision history of Talk:List of cheerleaders 16:56, 5 November 2008 (1,889 bytes) (?Suggested criteria commented: new section)
• Revision history of List of cheerleaders 16:50, 5 November 2008 (12,281 bytes) (?Notable Cheerleaders: alphabetized, added names and ref from cheerleading article , commented about citations and alphabetize)
• Revision history of Cheerleading 16:18, 5 November 2008 (26,520 bytes) (moving list of famous cheerleaders to the list. see talk)

Deletions

01 Manipur_Express

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Blanchardb put the following on the article page:

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27 October 2008 (Deletion log); 14:03 . . Orangemike deleted "Manipur Express" (G11: Blatant advertising)

Science journals poor verifiability

Bad Study Habits November 21, 2008

Most studies published in scientific journals, it turns out, are either exaggerated or wrong. How come? According to epidemiologist John Ionnidis, editors of science journals are no different than everyone else in media. Sensationalism sells.

Scientific journals Publish and be wrongOct 9th 2008 From The Economist print edition One group of researchers thinks headline-grabbing scientific reports are the most likely to turn out to be wrong

Retrieved 03:36, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Help desk answers to deadlink question

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#Deadlink_clearing_house

Railroad

Rail transport

• Train
• Permanent way
• track

Conquer Your Fear of Water book

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