Previous objections -
- All of Kirill Loshin's objections (see former FAC.) - Kirill Loshin
- All notes fixed and ammended, complete with copyedit from Kirill.
- Doesn't quite treat the subject as a fictional creature enough. - Fieari
- Hopefully it reads better now, the copyedit, in my eyes, has resolved this problem. The Characteristics section is from the in-game guide to Torchic so it can't exactly be "not in the real world". The comparison to chicken's more seems to also aid this.
- I would recommend more thorough citing and removal of anything that could seem POV-ish. - User:Everyking
- Well if there are any other links relating to Torchic into the internet, they're probably in Deutch because it has (don't trust me completely) 29 references, which is a lot for any fictitious creature. Again, the copyedit should have removed "anything that could seem POV-ish".
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This is Bulbasaur in drag. Had I known this would happen when I supported Bulbasaur's FAC, I think I would have voted no on that too. Seriously, though, template writing is not brilliant and compelling prose. If you can rewrite this article to make it 100% original and not simply a cut and paste job of Bulbasaur I'll give it another looksie. As it stands now, not a chance...Weak Support due to my Strong Objection of the nominator's attitude toward people who kindly took time out of their lives to read the article and offer their opinions... " - Jayzel- Well the "original" malarkey (a funky word ; P) was sorted out in the first FAC but I maintain that an article can't be objected (I appreciate the support, but I resent the Weak part) based on my comments. I got annoyed with the editor who was generally blaming me for beginning a wave "drag FAs" which upsetted me into saying "And I won't have all my work made redundant by you." After all the hurtful things that were said to me then I don't think my lone comment qualifies as a Strong Objection towards "the nominator's attitude toward people who kindly took time out of their lives to read the article and offer their opinions". The article is 100% original, which was sorted in the first FAC, but that's another story.
- Citations in the lead: if you have to use them, that means you're not going into the statement in greater detail inside the body of the article, which means that the statement should not be in the lead anyway. Titoxd(?!? - help us)
- You never replied when we asked you what to do. Celestianpower even asked, saying that the problem with the Bulbasaur FAC was that it didn't mention this, so it's about consensus really.
- References: several sections lack references in several paragraphs: For example, the first and second-to-last paragraphs of the In the Pokémon video games section, second paragraph of the In the Pokémon anime section, middle paragraph of the In the Pokémon manga section, and the first half of the In the Pokémon Trading Card Game section. While it is admirable that you remember those off the top of your head, if you know them cold, it shouldn't be hard to reference. Titoxd(?!? - help us)
- Fixed, all the relevant paragraphs noted (and all others) have been referenced.
- First section: Its small wings are useless for flying with, much like a chicken's - Chickens are not flightless birds, you know. That is why their wings are clipped, you see, to stop then flying. - aerial battler - I thought its wings were useless for flying with? Can it fly or not? - This power also serves as its ammunition in battles - What power? The power of "warm hugs"? - The drawing and sprite design of Torchic was created by Ken Sugimori's team for its 2003 release on the Nintendo Game Boy Advance - I thought we were talking about its characteristics, not the design process. - Second section: Torchic is described as sharing many qualities with a chicken, including flightless wings and unsteady footing - Have you ever seen a chicken? - It can also call out much like a rooster does, but in a much quieter tone - It quietly crows cock-a-doodle-doo without waking the neighbours? -- After that I kind of lost the will to live. Sorry; suffice it to say: can do better, must do better. -- ALoan (Talk)
- All fixed.
- All fixed.