I was a plumber and heavy equipment operator for 17 years. I then became a psychologist/professor for another 17 years. I have been in holy orders for eight years and am an Anglican Priest.Dale Matson (talk) 23:11, 11 December 2012 (UTC) I have written 14 books to date on various topics including religion, search and rescue and backpacking. I live in Fresno CA USA, Emeritus Faculty of Fresno Pacific University.