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Drynaria

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The result was: promoted by Sharktopus ^talk

• ... that in Australia you are likely to stumble on amethystine pythons in basket ferns (pictured)?

• Reviewed: Berlian Hutauruk ([1])
• Comment: Expansion is still ongoing, so other content might change later.

Created by Obsidian Soul (talk). Self nom at 10:03, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

An amethystine python

Alt picture added for the python, might be more interesting, though it's not the focus of the hook nor the article expanded.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 10:06, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that the flowerless basket ferns (pictured) produce nectar?

Added alt hook as well.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 10:16, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Original hook is more hooky but the meaning isn't clear (does it mean that I would be likely to find a python in every fern or that if I was looking for a python the fern would be the best place to look?) Yomangani^talk 22:57, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Heh, latter one. If you were looking for a python, the best place would be to climb up trees with Drynaria in them. :P Feel free to reword. -- Obsidi♠n Soul 23:09, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Expansion done. Article more or less complete.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 22:56, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Please add a comment and signature (or just a signature if endorsing) after each aspect you have reviewed:

Hook

• Length, format, content rules: Unlinked "Australia" in hook per WP:OVERLINK. (Also in article, three of them.) Tony (talk) 08:37, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
• Source: Nice RS Tony (talk) 08:37, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
• Interest: Good! Tony (talk) 08:37, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
• Image suitability, if applicable: Both good: fern more relevant to the overall article, but snake more relevant to the hook. Tony (talk) 08:37, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
• ALT hooks, if proposed: The original seems more hooky. Could you make it "... that in Australia you are likely to stumble on ..."? This might address Yomangani's well-spotted ambiguity issue. If using ALT1, consider ... that the flowerless basket ferns (pictured) produce nectars? [I guess "nectar" has to be plural, does it?] Tony (talk) 08:37, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Article

• Length: Tony (talk) 08:37, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
• Vintage: Tony (talk) 08:37, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
• Sourcing (V, RS, BLP): Tony (talk) 08:37, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
• Neutrality: Tony (talk) 08:37, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
• Plagiarism/close paraphrasing: Spot-check ref 3 fine. Tony (talk) 08:38, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
• Copyvio: Tony (talk) 08:38, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
• Obvious faults in prose, structure, formatting: Please note WP:OVERLINK ... I unlinked dictionary words such as "explorer" and made a few other edits. Convert template ... first time I'd set the abbreviation field "off". Also, consider dash, if you think it's neater. Tony (talk) 08:37, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Comments/discussion: Very nice work indeed: please keep contributing! Careful of left-side pic against the infobox. You've got a very large window width? Many people don't (I use half my 27"-monitor width, and the text is sandwiched). Same issue in "Ecology". Fine by me for promotion when nominator decides on the hook and pic. Tony (talk) 08:37, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks :) and thanks for the corrections, sections are made piecemeal so I rarely have time to doublecheck if I had linked them before. And yes, I have dual monitors actually. A more common 1024x768 and a widescreen 1600x900. I check widths in both of them. Spent a good deal of time, cutting pics and rearranging stuff to fit them. Best I could do was let the first paragraph be squished though, just to avoid displacing the clade templates and bulleted list at the bottom of the article. Doesn't look that bad, imo. heh

Suggestions on the hooks are fine. Except that nectar is already a mass noun. It would be like saying 'waters' instead of 'water'. Amended hooks per suggestion.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 11:26, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure that Tony's change resolves the ambiguity. How about ALT2: "... that in Australia, amethystine pythons are most often found in basket ferns (pictured)?"? I'd use the snake pic, though. Yomangani^talk 10:48, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Whatever works really. :P -- Obsidi♠n Soul 12:11, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Yamongani, yes, still ambiguous. What about a turnaround: ALT4 "... that in Australia, basket ferns often contain a nasty surprise: amethystine pythons (pictured)? Tony (talk) 13:45, 3 August 2011 (UTC)