Template:Did you know nominations/Winter time (Namibia)
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by HaEr48 (talk) 03:46, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
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Winter time (Namibia) edit
- ... that Namibia, the only country changing to winter time instead of daylight saving time, is considering abolishing the practice? Source: "To byla jediná doba, kdy byl u nás zaveden zimní čas, je to nejspíš i světový unikát [1]" and Source: "The ministry had set end of January as the deadline for submissions on whether Namibia should stop switching to ‘winter time’ or not" [2]
- ALT1:... that Namibia is considering abolishing winter time? Source: The ministry had set end of January as the deadline for submissions on whether Namibia should stop switching to ‘winter time’ or not" [3]
- ALT2:... that Namibia is considering establishing a single time zone all across the country by abolishing winter time? Source: "home affairs minister Pendukeni Iivula-Ithana... ['s] proposal is that Namibia should use the current summer time as the only time measure for the entire country all-year." [4] and Source: The ministry had set end of January as the deadline for submissions on whether Namibia should stop switching to ‘winter time’ or not" [5] and Source: "The Zambezi Region, which does not change time, was another concern" [6]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Continuoolithus
- Comment: Another error on Wikipedia fixed: The statement on Namibia's clock changing was wrong since inception of Daylight saving time by country [7] because the main article source has it wrong.
The original hook is my favourite but I'm not sure it is acceptable. To verify that Namibia currently is the only country with winter time instead of DST, we can review Daylight saving time by country which supports it through an entry I edited myself. That would still be somewhat WP:OR as it is only implicitly stated. Or we can take the Czech-language source I indicated, where my cz-0.25 abilities (and Google Translate) tell me that the Czech source thinks that Czechoslovakia was the only country with winter time. Here the obvious problem is that the source is wrong; at the time it was written Namibia already had winter time for seven years. Furthermore, the source says 'probably'. I'm open so suggestions and comments.
Depending on the decision by the National Assembly and its timing, the hooks might not be factual anymore. I'll report back here as soon as the issue is decided for 2017.
Created by Pgallert (talk). Self-nominated at 13:47, 2 March 2017 (UTC).
@Pgallert: New and long enough, within policy, Earwig detects no copyvios, QPQ done. It's a little unclear from the article text exactly what's going on here. From what I can gather, in daylight saving time, clocks are set an hour forward in the summer, while in Namibia's winter time, clocks are set an hour back in the (Southern) winter. Is it practically the same, the only difference being which of the two times is considered standard time? If so, this should be stated more explicitly in the article. Also, shouldn't the summer time thus be South African Standard Time rather than West Africa Summer Time? Lastly, the fact that winter time was put into effect so that children wouldn't have to walk to school in the dark would make a good additional hook. John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 22:12, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
- Hi John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) Yes indeed, the effect of DST and winter time is the same. The three differences are a) that in Namibia, UTC+02:00 (West Africa Summer Time) is the standard time, b) that the time change starts in fall and ends in spring, and c) that the time change is done turning clocks back when it starts, and forward when it ends. I'd be happy for any suggestion on how to clarify that in the article... if I wrote something that is hard to understand I'm probably the wrong person to iron that out :-/ Thanks so far, Pgallert (talk) 06:07, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Pgallert: I've added some text in the article to clarify this; is the added text correct? John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 03:11, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
- That's perfect, John P. Sadowski (NIOSH). The 'thus' in the sentence following your explanation seems misplaced, let me sleep over what to do with it. --Pgallert (talk) 20:20, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Pgallert: I've added some text in the article to clarify this; is the added text correct? John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 03:11, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
- Update: Namibia has switched to Winter time again on 2 April. There was no specific coverage but presumably the law amendment was tabled too late to be considered in 2017. Should the hooks be adjusted?---"is considering" could suggest that there is an active discussion right now, which is questionable. --Pgallert (talk) 15:35, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
Unless the bill has been voted down, I supposed it's still under consideration, even if it wouldn't take effect for this year. Good to go. ALT1 preferred for its succinctness. John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 17:18, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
