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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by ~ RobTalk 12:29, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

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William Blair Bruce
William Blair Bruce

Created by W.carter (talk). Self-nominated at 20:39, 14 July 2015 (UTC).

Sorry, a bit too minimalistic. Unclear if all criteria were reviewed and addressed. @E.M.Gregory:, you need to do a more thorough review that addresses hook length, and if within policy. Also, doing this inside the tick is probably why the article has sat for over a week without being promoted. Montanabw(talk) 06:36, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

  • And since Montanabw's "ping" had a faulty bracket, I guess E.M.Gregory did not get the ping, which is why I'm mentioning you both here. Cheers, w.carter-Talk 08:28, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
  • The article is new, written by Nom between July 9 and 14; length is ample; formatting unimpeachable; and although this was a very, very minor artist, the sourcing is stellar. The only quibble I have with the article is that the author ought to have been more explicit about money. Reading between the lines, it becomes clear that this man and his wife were born with money and that he might not be remembered as an artist at all if not for the lovely estate they created. The article's creator could probably have sourced the context and weight of the positions they inherited and its impact on their careers.E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:17, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
  • Thank you for that insigtful comment. :) I will keep that in mind when I expand the article. I have also been advised to create a separate article for his wife and move some of the content to that. This will also be done when I find more sources about them and their families. Best, w.carter-Talk 11:50, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
  • You absolutely should do the wife; I've long wished to visit Zornmuseet, now I will add this house to my next visit to Sweden.E.M.Gregory (talk) 13:15, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
  • A Draft is already created. Brucebo is actually much nicer than Zornmuseet. I've been to both. This article came into existence because I was fixing nature reserves on Gotland. I could not resist telling about the background as well. w.carter-Talk 13:23, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
  • I think the tick needs to be here and not by the image for the promotors to notice it. Double-checking the review and I concur the article is GTG. BTW, when you take Carolina live, ping me, I'm probably going to need a qpq and I'd be delighted to review an article on a women's bio like hers. Montanabw(talk) 21:14, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
  • Sure, will do. Hadn't planned to DYK that, but what the heck! I'll be in touch, w.carter-Talk 21:21, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
  • Hi, I came by to promote this, but am confused by the presentation. I understand that his wife gets a special section, but the additional sections about Brucebo, the Brucebo Foundation, and the Brucebo Shooting look like they belong in a separate article. Why don't you move this material into Brucebo, add a summary paragraph to this article under a {{main|Brucebo}} template, and make this a double nomination? Yoninah (talk) 21:39, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Yoninah: Hi! I understand your reasoning, but this started out as one article with "all included" and along the way I have picked up suggestions to expand and branch off articles from it. Unfortunate all this will require additional research and time, which I do not have at the moment since Real Life is intruding. My plan was to just DYK this article and continue to work on it later when things IRL have settled down a bit. I am not chasing after as many DYKs as possible or anything like that and have no special desire to go after double DYKs. I just write articles and DYK some of them if I find them interesting enough. But thanks for the suggestion. If you think that the article is "bad" as it is now, then don't promote it. Not all articles that are nominated get promoted. Best, w.carter-Talk 22:13, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
Brucebo now split off according to instructions. w.carter-Talk 20:56, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Thank you! I hope that was as easy as it looked. Would you like to add the new article to the hook, as follows:
  • ALT2: ... that the estate of Canadian painter William Blair Bruce (pictured) became a Swedish nature reserve?
  • Here is a review of both articles:
  • William Blair Bruce: New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. Foreign-language hook ref AGF and cited inline. Image is PD. QPQ done. Good to go.
  • Brucebo: New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. Foreign-language hook ref AGF and cited inline. I'll contribute one of my QPQs to move this along. QPQ done. Good to go.
  • I'll give the approval tick after you tell me which hook you prefer. Alternately, you may want to write a different hook for Brucebo based on the shooting. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 01:14, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: I had not planned on making this a double DYK even with the additional article, but if you insist: ok. Yes, of course it was easy. It was never a question about that, only to find the time to do it, life being what it is at the moment. Go for ALT2. As I declared in first part of what now is a lengthy discussion, I prefer to keep the ALT on the subject instead of capitalizing on the misfortunes of others. Thank you for the QPQ offer, but I have some of my own in stock. I have added one of them to the entry above, no need for you to waste one of yours on my articles. Thank you for the additional review. w.carter-Talk 07:51, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Great! Per reviews above, ALT2 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 10:08, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
  • I changed "the home" to "the estate" for more accuracy. Yoninah (talk) 10:10, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
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