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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 01:06, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

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Created by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 21:15, 18 September 2019 (UTC).

  • There are a few issues that need to be fixed before this is ready for DYK. First, multiple paragraphs end without a citation, which is concerning from a verifiability perspective. In addition, I wouldn't consider either of the hooks fully verified in the article. The bit in the main hook about Caray calling hockey and basketball games isn't cited in the article. It's going to be hard to cite the fact that he called "other events" with just ads for single games in hockey and basketball; you could just drop that bit and say that Caray called hockey and basketball for WTMV. For ALT1, the article doesn't say much about "newspaper articles and interviews"; it just mentions one single newspaper story, as does the source. Also, I don't see a mention of the mayor or Chamber of Commerce in that source article; it just says civic leaders (like the hook), so I don't know where that comes from in the article. So those items need work. On the positive side, the article is well-referenced with reliable sources aside from the couple end-of-paragraph areas, the hooks meet formatting guidelines and the QPQ review is done. Spot-checks of refs 2, 18, and 20 showed no issues. Giants2008 (Talk) 01:52, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
  • @Giants2008: I've added a couple more citations (one of which should have been there from the start—the one that starts "Eastsiders" which should abate the ALT1 concerns) and improved in the areas you highlighted. (I added a second basketball citation and an ad for a wrestling broadcast.) Take a look now. Raymie (t • c) 02:40, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
  • The new citations are nice, but there are still some issues. First, the "many of them called by Caray" bit doesn't have a proper citation since the references are used before it. Also, I don't see anything covered the fact that it aired Browns games. I'd change that whole sentence into something like, "Caray called St. Louis Flyers hockey, basketball and wrestling events for the station", which the ads can verify. As for ALT1, current ref 25 (the new one) needs to be used in an additional cite where the last usage of ref 24 currently is; otherwise, the bit about the mayor and Chamber of Commerce isn't properly verified. In addition, I still don't see anything about an interview in the article. My recommendation is to add that usage of ref 25 and aim for the main hook to be used. It's the far more interested of the two facts to me, and the sentence tweak should be enough for it to sufficiently well-cited. Giants2008 (Talk) 02:50, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
  • I've made changes for the sentences in the main hook as suggested. You're right about ALT1. Here's a modified version: Raymie (t • c) 21:55, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
ALT2: ... that despite statements to the contrary from the station manager, new ownership changed the format of WAMV radio in 1961, upsetting civic leaders in East St. Louis?
  • The cleanup edits I suggested all seem to have been made, and the hooks now look good to go. I still suggest that the main hook be used, as a radio station format change is much more run-of-the-mill than the Harry Caray-related facts. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:25, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
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