Template:Did you know nominations/Vanadyl nitrate

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The result was: promoted by 97198 (talk) 05:44, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Vanadyl nitrate, Titanium nitrate edit

  • ... that the volatile anhydrous nitrates of titanium and vanadium can add nitro groups to organic compounds?

Moved to mainspace by Graeme Bartlett (talk). Self nominated at 06:35, 2 October 2014 (UTC).

  • Both articles are new and long enough. Both QPQ are done. I am in the process of verifying the content. Since it is mostly from research papers, I will need your help.
From Vanadyl nitrate - "Each nitrate is connected to the vanadium atom via two oxygen atoms, but one is closer than the other. " I am not able to directly pinpoint this. Can you tell me which part of the Ref[6] I should look to verify this. --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 08:31, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
You can see it illustrated in figure 1, and then discussed in the Discussion section on page 476. The rel event oxygens are labelled O3 and O6 as one nitrate, and O7 and O9 on another. Tables 3 and 4 give numbers, and the text calls this "bidentate bound asymmetrically". Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:20, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Vanadyl nitrate facts matches well. Some facts cited to offline sources and non-english sources taken on good faith. --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 13:58, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Titanium nitrate facts also matches with available sources. Some facts cited to offline sources and non-english sources taken on good faith. However, both articles lack citations at the end of each paragraphs as required per DYK guidelines. Kindly fix that. --Vigyanitalkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 02:53, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Citations now added to end of paragraphs where missing. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 07:12, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
  • I added the inline cite for the hook fact to Titanium nitrate; please make sure I used the right cite. Meanwhile, in neither article are these substances referred to as "organic compounds" (it may be obvious to you, but not to me). Yoninah (talk) 18:29, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
  • That is the correct citation, as the one at the end of the two sentences was for both. Although it is clear to me that these are organic compounds, would you prefer alt1 hook below? Graeme Bartlett (talk) 20:04, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
  • alt1 ... that the volatile anhydrous nitrates of titanium and vanadium can add nitro groups to hydrocarbons?
  • Either hook is fine; I just meant that you should add the words "organic compounds" or "hydrocarbons" to the articles before the list of organic compounds/hydrocarbons that you're mentioning. Weird DYK rule, I know. Yoninah (talk) 20:16, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
  • added to the titanium one, the vanadium one already said it, not before, but on the text that matches the hook. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:00, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Great. Let's stick with the original hook, which is mentioned and cited in both articles (and is a little simpler to understand). Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 23:17, 8 November 2014 (UTC)