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The result was: promoted by Baldy Bill (sharpen the razor|see my reflection) 01:32, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
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Vanada edit
- ... that Madonna influenced Michael Torke's composition of Vanada, a work initially dismissed as "dangerously close to the corruption that's happening to all American music"?
Created by Atethnekos (talk). Self nominated at 22:46, 29 October 2013 (UTC).
- Hook is good, article length is good, QPQ not necessary. However, I am concerned about the hook source as I am not certain of the acceptability of the citation. Chhandama (talk) 09:27, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Chhandama, thanks for your concern. The author of the source is Frank J. Oteri who I believe is reliable; pretty well-established as a music writer. If your concern is whether the source actually supports the claims, I can send you a scan of a few of the pages, if you want? Thanks again.--Atethnekos (Discussion, Contributions) 08:11, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
I put my trust. Then, good to go. Chhandama (talk) 03:12, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
I think it's important to put a name to the guest composer at Eastman who initially dismissed the work with those words, at least in the article. "Who" is at least as important (if not more so) as "what" their role was, in terms of establishing that this is a notable opinion worth considering. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:26, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, I don't have that information. The source is quoting Torke as referring to "the guest composer at Eastman that semester", with "that semester" being the fall semester of Torke's senior year (Fall 1983 by my count). I can't find a source for who this person was. Jean-Claude Risset was a guest composer at Eastman in 1983 (source: [1]), but I doubt that he is the person. --Atethnekos (Discussion, Contributions) 07:08, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
- If it isn't in the sources, it isn't, and the article will have to do without. If that information had been available, it's the sort of thing that ought to be in the hook. Sorry to have delayed this. It is a great quote, and the sort of thing said about new music that's too often proved by history to be wrong. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:29, 4 November 2013 (UTC)