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The result was: promoted by PFHLai (talk) 00:47, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
Twitter bomb edit
- ... that Twitter bombs have been used in Internet activism by groups as diverse as Barack Obama and Anonymous?
- Reviewed: Augustyn Suski
Created/expanded by Piotrus (talk). Self nom at 17:12, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
Article is new enough, long enough, well-referenced, hook is referenced. Good to go. --SupernovaExplosion Talk 23:23, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
Hook does not make sense, as it is saying Barack Obama is a group. He's a person. The article lists him as a mainstream politician and Anonymous as a group, which does work, but it's too long. If there's a good way to fix this hook and elegantly compare a single person with a group, I haven't been able to come up with it. I'm hoping someone else is more creative. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:56, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
- How about the word "factions" instead? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 06:41, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
- No, I'm afraid not. Obama isn't a faction. You run into the same single person vs. group problem with that word, too. Perhaps something as simple as "people as diverse as Barack Obama and the hackers of Anonymous?" Or if "hackers" isn't ideal, there might be another word that the article on Anonymous uses to describe them that could be used here. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:57, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
- That's a good solution, although I don't think we need to use the word hackers; Anonymous are people to. So here's ALT1, below. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 17:03, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that Twitter bombs have been used in Internet activism by people as diverse as Barack Obama and the Anonymous?
- Not fond of "the Anonymous" without an intervening word. It can be something simple, however. How about this:
- ALT2: ... that Twitter bombs have been used in Internet activism by people as diverse as Barack Obama and the members of Anonymous? —BlueMoonset (talk) 19:06, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
- I took the "the" out of the original hook too, it's just "Anonymous" not "the Anonymous"; as in "We are Anonymous". I also wouldn't say that Anonymous has "members" really, anyone at anytime could claim to be part of Anonymous. I think ALT1 is fine without "the". ▫ JohnnyMrNinja 19:13, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
- Respectfully disagree about ALT1. If ALT2 is also problematic, feel free to suggest an ALT3. The best I can come up with is replacing "the members of" with "those who are". BlueMoonset (talk) 19:38, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
- I guess removing "the" from "the members" would work for me, as "the" makes it sound too official/encompassing. ▫ JohnnyMrNinja 20:08, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
- That works for me, too. Piotrus? Would you be happy with this one?:
- ALT3: ... that Twitter bombs have been used in Internet activism by people as diverse as Barack Obama and members of Anonymous? —BlueMoonset (talk) 20:26, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
- Seems fine to me. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 20:58, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
- That works for me, too. Piotrus? Would you be happy with this one?:
- I guess removing "the" from "the members" would work for me, as "the" makes it sound too official/encompassing. ▫ JohnnyMrNinja 20:08, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
- Respectfully disagree about ALT1. If ALT2 is also problematic, feel free to suggest an ALT3. The best I can come up with is replacing "the members of" with "those who are". BlueMoonset (talk) 19:38, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
- - ALT3 meets consensus and avoids the issue this nomination was demoted for. ▫ JohnnyMrNinja 21:07, 4 May 2012 (UTC)