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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:23, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
The Inner Eye edit
... that Satyajit Ray's documentary The Inner Eye (1972) about an artist features his journey to blindness with his much quoted words, "Blindness is a new feeling, a new experience, a new state of being"?
ALT1: ... that Satyajit Ray's documentary, The Inner Eye (1972), features an artist's journey to blindness with his much quoted words, "Blindness is a new feeling, a new experience, a new state of being"?- Reviewed: Kulap
5x expanded by Vivvt (talk). Self nom at 02:59, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
- The length (over a 5x expansion) and Date are good, however while the quote is cited correctly as is the description of the film being about his becoming blind, I am concerned about saying that his words are "much quoted" especially when the sources make no mention of that. Best, Mifter (talk) 03:56, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
- All three sources mention about his quote:
- 1. 2nd source satyajitray.org says "The sequence ends with a frozen shot of the painter in dark glass and the following words:"Blindness is a new feeling, a new experience, a new state of being".- Binode Bihari Mukherjee."
- 2. 3rd source by Madhuja Mukherjee mentions "For instance, Binode Bihari’s expression “Blindness is a new feeling, a new experience, a new state of being”, has a strong parallel with K C Dey’s approach to blindness."
- 3. 4th source also refers as "[...]and the following words appear:"Blindness is a new feeling, a new experience, a new state of being".- Binode Bihari Mukherjee."
- Yes, but mentioning them and saying that it is "much quoted" is a different thing, inserting much quoted just because you have seen it often is original research, the claim has to be cited from somewhere else. If you were to remove the quote and have an alt with just the first half of the proposed hook then that would be fine as it is backed up in citations (although of the three cites, one is a blog/self published journal and not a reliable source). Best, Mifter (talk) 04:11, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
- I hear you now. But I really want to have that quote in the hook as its new or different thought altogether. Would changing the hook and article to take out "much quoted" solve the problem?
- ALT1a: ... that Satyajit Ray's documentary, The Inner Eye (1972), features an artist's journey to blindness in his own words, "Blindness is a new feeling, a new experience, a new state of being"?
- ALT1b: ... that Satyajit Ray's documentary, The Inner Eye (1972), features an artist's journey to blindness with his own words, "Blindness is a new feeling, a new experience, a new state of being"? - Vivvt • (Talk) 04:32, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, but mentioning them and saying that it is "much quoted" is a different thing, inserting much quoted just because you have seen it often is original research, the claim has to be cited from somewhere else. If you were to remove the quote and have an alt with just the first half of the proposed hook then that would be fine as it is backed up in citations (although of the three cites, one is a blog/self published journal and not a reliable source). Best, Mifter (talk) 04:11, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
New reviewer needed; have struck hooks found problematic by original reviewer. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:26, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
5x expansion, hook cited, approving ALT1b. Good to go. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 03:32, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
