Template:Did you know nominations/Sankō Shrine

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:01, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Sankō Shrine edit

The prayer hall of Sankō Shrine
The prayer hall of Sankō Shrine
  • ALT1:... that the tunnel located on the grounds of Sankō Shrine was probably used to attack the Sanada Maru, not defend it?
  • Reviewed: Katrien Meire
  • Comment: If the ALT1 hook is used, then an image of the tunnel entrance is in the article's gallery.

5x expanded by Athomeinkobe (talk). Self-nominated at 08:20, 20 June 2016 (UTC).


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: 5x expansion doesn't seem to have been was met 1,5714,973 bytes 287→2,103 char started 15 June, nom 20 June within 7 day DYK window but is only 3.17x expansion. Min length for DYK is OK at 2,103 prose characters, exceeds 1,500 ch minimum. Every para and section has at least one source (all in Japanese so some AGF will be required to review). Primary hook is sourced, interesting; I personally prefer ALT1 for the juxtaposition of fact and myth but it appears you need a citation for "more likely a trench dug by the attacking Maeda forces". Picture on Commons is tagged PD, is reasonably clear. QPQ on Katrien Meire was appropriate, currently pending author's attention for neutrality issue. Historical subject of battle seems to be treated neutrally in this article. Spot check for plagiarism is good, clean pass on Earwig's copyvio detector & author appears to have done his own Japanese translation so that shouldn't be an issue. Appears to be good to go!

One final comment, I try to avoid "famous" per WP:PEACOCK in articles I write, or ce it away if I come across it. Would suggest finding another wording for this phrase. Perhaps "legendary" or some other term. Brianhe (talk) 07:12, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

  • Thanks for the review Brianhe. The way I understand it, the text of the article requires 1,500 characters of prose and 5x expansion of the prose. Before I touched it the article only had 53 words of prose (258 characters) and the rest of those 1,571 characters were made up of the infobox, image gallery, categories, etc. I have expanded the prose to 369 words (2,119 characters), which is more than 5x. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 06:48, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
Note: My word and character counts have come from copy/pasting both versions of the article into Microsoft Word and removing section headers. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 06:53, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
  • You're right, dumb mistake on my part; corrected in checklist. - Brianhe (talk) 07:04, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
  • I just used the DYK check script and it's telling me 5x expansion began on June 15, so we should be good if everything else is. Raymie (tc) 07:08, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
  • I've made the change from "famous" to "legendary", which is more appropriate as you say. That unsourced sentence at the end of the "Grounds" section came from the Japanese Wiki article. It is sourced to a book written by the professor. I will go past a library this evening and try to find the book. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 07:32, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Cool. If material substantially came from the ja.wiki article then you must provide attribution, and a convenient way is to add {{Translated page}} to the English article's talkpage. - Brianhe (talk) 07:55, 30 June 2016 (UTC)