Template:Did you know nominations/Robert Constable (died 1591)
- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:05, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
Robert Constable (died 1591) edit
- ... that Sir Robert Constable was a descendant of Richard, Earl of Cambridge, executed for his part in the Southampton Plot against King Henry V?
Created by NinaGreen (talk). Self nom at 23:11, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
Most things check out fine, but has QPQ been done? If so, please list it here. Bonkers The Clown (Nonsensical Babble) 04:54, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
- Nina, once someone has nominated five of their own articles, they are required to do a quid pro quo (QPQ) review of someone else's nomination for each of their own articles they nominate. The expectation is that people participate both by submitting articles for review and by reviewing other people's articles. By my count, you have five articles that have made it to the main page: one nominated by someone else, which does not count toward your initial five, and four nominated by you, which do. In addition, you have four self-nominated articles that have already been approved, three of which you owe QPQ reviews for, plus this one, which also needs a QPQ. The DYK reviewing guide is at WP:DYKR, and the rules are spread out over two pages (which you may have seen already because they also tell you about what your DYK submission should have): WP:DYK and WP:DYKSG. If you have any questions, let us know! BlueMoonset (talk) 04:41, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for the explanation! I failed to notice that requirement. NinaGreen (talk) 18:36, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
- I've reviewed Adelina Domingues. NinaGreen (talk) 21:11, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for the explanation! I failed to notice that requirement. NinaGreen (talk) 18:36, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
- Nina, once someone has nominated five of their own articles, they are required to do a quid pro quo (QPQ) review of someone else's nomination for each of their own articles they nominate. The expectation is that people participate both by submitting articles for review and by reviewing other people's articles. By my count, you have five articles that have made it to the main page: one nominated by someone else, which does not count toward your initial five, and four nominated by you, which do. In addition, you have four self-nominated articles that have already been approved, three of which you owe QPQ reviews for, plus this one, which also needs a QPQ. The DYK reviewing guide is at WP:DYKR, and the rules are spread out over two pages (which you may have seen already because they also tell you about what your DYK submission should have): WP:DYK and WP:DYKSG. If you have any questions, let us know! BlueMoonset (talk) 04:41, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
QPQ done; review still needs to be completed, since "most things" means some things either weren't checked or did not check out. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:19, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
- The original reviewer's Talk page indicates he's taking a break from Wikipedia. Any chance someone else could complete the review? NinaGreen (talk) 17:57, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
- The hook is confusing. My understanding on first read was that he was the father of two kings which isn't right. Clarify that Richard Duke of York was the father (and thus that Constable was related to both kings), while staying under the 200-character limit or rework the hook to focus on one ancestor or the other. Third alternative is to say that he was the father of the poet. Expansion, cites and time are all good.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:12, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
- Hook has been completely changed; new review needed to cover hook and anything else not done by Sturmvogel above. (Note to Nina: next time, please leave the original hook intact and add an ALT hook, so the discussion makes sense. Thanks!) BlueMoonset (talk) 21:47, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks. As I recall, the original hook was 'Did you know that Sir Robert Constable was a descendant of Richard of York, 3rd Duke of York, father of two Kings, Edward IV and Richard III, and of Richard, Earl of Cambridge, executed for his part in the Southampton Plot?'. Hope that helps to clear up the confusion. NinaGreen (talk) 22:46, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
Article is new enough and long enough. The hook is now acceptable and the hook fact is referenced to an off-line source. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:53, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
