Template:Did you know nominations/Paul Miller (basketball)
- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 09:45, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
Paul Miller (basketball) edit
- ... that basketball player Paul Miller was not selected in the 2006 NBA Draft even though he had been named Missouri Valley Conference Player of the Year earlier that year?
Created/expanded by Rikster2 (talk). Nominated by LlamaAl (talk) at 21:41, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
New enough and long enough. The hook is short enough, properly formatted, mentioned in article. No QPQ needed because nom is different than creator. Article appears free from copyvio/plagarism. The article includes several inline citations which support most of the statements.
However, the hook facts appear only partially supported by inline citations: cite #3 supports the claim of MVC player of the year, but the support for not being drafted by NBA is unclear (it is not mentioned in cite #4, the only one in same para).
Furthermore, in some additional cases the inline citations are unduly difficult or perhaps impossible to verify, although they presumably could be made easier. For example, citation #2 is to a 190+ page online media guide, but citation does not give any page numbers. Therefore the facts that (perhaps?) are supported by this citation - such as 7.4 points and 4.7 rebounds per game in 2002-2003 -- are unnecessarily difficult to verify. Since these are not hook-related facts, I am not sure if they are required for DYK approval. But I suggest it would be easy and desirable to fix them, and could put DYK eligibility beyond doubt.
Also, it seems to me that "MVC" should not be used in the hook since very few people will know what it means. You could easily spell it out without having too many characters. Perhaps also find a way to include the word "basketball" in the hook, since some readers worldwide will not know that NBA stands for. How about something like this:
ALT1: ... that Paul Miller was not selected in the 2006 NBA (basketball) Draft even though he had been named Missouri Valley Conference Player of the Year earlier that year?
Please address these issues and resubmit. Thanks --Presearch (talk) 22:53, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
- PS: By "resubmit" I just mean you need to address the issues, and then let this page know (and perhaps give me a heads-up on my talk page) that you have addressed the issues, so that the article can be re-evaluated. There's also a little symbol you can use (for which a string appears when you're in edit mode for the template: {{subst:DYK?again}}). Sticking that symbol at the beginning of your re-notification on this page will help make sure we notice it's ready to be re-evaluated. -- Presearch (talk) 23:35, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
— Added an inline citation to the sentence about not being drafted in the 2006 NBA Draft.--LlamaAl (talk) 23:42, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
I think hook is good to go. Inline citation is short of perfection (see my remarks above), but I think is probably (?) good enough for DYK. Both original and ALT1 hooks seem technically acceptable, although, to reiterate my remarks to the nom, I think ALT1 is probably more likely to be comprehensible to a wider audience worldwide. --Presearch (talk) 00:00, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
