Template:Did you know nominations/List of songs recorded by Madonna

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by sst✈^(conjugate) 08:12, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
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List of songs recorded by Madonna edit

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Madonna in 2016

... ~~that Madonna's (pictured) musical endeavours have included recording poems and setting them to music?~~

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Laid Back (album)

Created by Calvin999 (talk) and IndianBio (talk). Nominated by Calvin999 (talk) at 14:56, 3 February 2016 (UTC).

It's not a new article per DYK purposes (see WP:WIADYK) because it was created on 17 January 2016‎, and is over 7 days old. The article was expanded over 5x, which essentially ended on 20:35, 26 January 2016‎ (UTC) (diff). Unfortunately, the expansion is now dated over 8 days, having been nominated here on 14:56, 3 February 2016. Sorry, but DYK rules state that expansions must be 7 days old or less to qualify. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 13:32, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

You do realise it only applies to the prose section and not the table, right? So it only applies from the 26 January and after. It's not an expansion. DYK check says that it's fine. — Calvin999 16:02, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

@Calvin999: Yes, I understand that table content is not counted in character counts. As I stated, comparing the leads, this version from 12:26, 25 January 2016 has 269 characters, and this version from 20:35, 26 January 2016 has 1,854 characters. Since the lead had content prior to the expansion (as denoted in the first diff above), the article does not count as "new", and over seven days had passed before the expanded article was nominated here. I'm not against this moving forward, and I appreciate the work that has gone into the article, but I have to follow the rules. Perhaps a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Did you know is in order to see if people would be willing to accept this, since it was just slightly beyond the 7-day maximum. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 20:48, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Calvin999, Northamerica1000, as it was pointed out to me recently, please have a look at WP:DYKSG D9: "Seven days old" limit should be strictly enforced only if there is a large backlog of hooks. Otherwise nominated article may still be approved if it were created or expanded after the oldest date listed in Template talk:Did you know#Older nominations. Ya sh ! 05:35, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- So what does that mean? — Calvin999 11:05, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
  - The seven day limit is not supposed to be strictly followed. Ya sh ! 11:13, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
    - So who decides if this is still allowed? — Calvin999 11:14, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
      - Since Northamerican1000 was the primary reviewer, best if he could give his inputs. Ya sh ! 12:01, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Expanded 5x, new enough per rough consensus at discussion at the DYK talk page here and acceptable per D9 of the supplementary guidelines, checks for copyvio reveals no problems (e.g. [1]), hook content is mostly backed with an inline citation to a reliable source in the article (source: [2]), QPQ review performed, all prose paragraphs have inline citations. The only problem is that the part of the hook about Madonna creating the music for the poems is not backed in the source. The source states that Madonna and Goldie Hawn recited Rumi's verses on A Gift of Love, but does not state that Madonna made the music. In the source it sounds like she simply recited poems. In the hook, the phrase "setting them to music" implies that Madonna created the music. The source states that the CD was produced by Deepak Chopra. Did Chopra create the music? North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 20:48, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

IndianBio — Calvin999 21:50, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Why not simply have the hook as ALT1 "... that Madonna's (pictured) musical endeavours includes reciting and recording poems?" The nominated hook implies she set them to music which is untrue. —IB ^{[ Poke ]} 22:02, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Ah right. You need to remove that from the lead then, because you've written that the poem was set to music. I'm happy with that ALT. :P — Calvin999 09:25, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

I amended the lead also so @Northamerica1000: you can now take a look for your final assessment. —IB ^{[ Poke ]} 20:03, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Good to go for ALT1. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 23:22, 8 February 2016 (UTC)