Template:Did you know nominations/List of accolades received by The Last of Us
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 14:00, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
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List of accolades received by The Last of Us edit
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that The Last of Us is the most-awarded video game in history, winning over 230 awards?
- Reviewed: Grand Theft Auto V (re-release)
Created by Rhain1999 (talk). Self nominated at 02:59, 17 January 2015 (UTC).
New enough (16 Jan) and long enough (~3k chars). QPQ done. There doesn't seem to be any copyvio and the lead (list summary) reads neutral enough. However, there are a few contradictions. First off, the hook is a bit misleading - no mention of 230+ award wins in article. The fact "most-awarded video game in history" is sourced to this site, which in turn cites this blog. The number is for a specific award: Game of the Year, and neither figures match (231 in the first, 249 in the second, 89 total wins in the article infobox). The accolade section doesn't even mention half of them. I'd suggest changing the hook or the article for consistency, to reflect whichever preference. Also, if I'm counting correctly, there are more wins in the accolade section than there are in the infobox. Can this be fixed as well? Fuebaey (talk) 22:25, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review. I understand your concerns. I believe the reason that the DualShockers post is different to the blog post is because the latter has been updated since the former was posted. Also, the reason that the article and infobox only lists 89 total wins is because a lot of the sites that gave the game awards are deemed unreliable (but awards are awards, and I believe they can still add to the "230+" statistic). I've just gone ahead and corrected the counting problem in the infobox (I have to do it manually, so I was expecting some errors). Let me know exactly what else you'd like me to do. -- Rhain1999 (talk to me) 00:49, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
- Okay, could you change the hook then? When I first read the hook I clicked on the link to see which 230+ awards it received, but was disappointed when there was no mention of this in the article. I think most readers would expect at least that when clicking on the hook. Fuebaey (talk) 19:31, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the feedback. I'm having trouble coming up with an alternative for the hook; with an article like this, there's not many options. Could the hook possibly be changed to "winning over 100 awards"? An alternative would be to try and list the 230+ awards, but I'm not sure how others would look upon that, considering some of the awards come from unreliable sources. Let me know. -- Rhain1999 (talk to me) 01:21, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
- If you don't think that the sources are reliable maybe go for a different subset? How about mentioning that it took the most BAFTA game awards in 2014. The Academy is known more for their film and television awards so a video game winning five could be intriguing. Or possibly an American award, since it's an American production, but I'm not sure what would be considered the most prestigious video game award there. Fuebaey (talk) 00:13, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
- Mentioning the BAFTA wins is a good idea; unfortunately, the five wins isn't record-breaking (many games have previously won six), but it's still very impressive. How about:
- ALT1:... that The Last of Us received the most wins at the 10th British Academy Video Games Awards, collecting five BAFTAs?
- That's more difficult to put into a sentence than I imagined it would be, and the words "win..." and "awards" is repeated very closely, so I understand if you'd like to change it. -- Rhain1999 (talk to me) 00:32, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
I've changed the last two to avoid repetition and striked the original hook on the above discussion. Copyedited a bit. I haven't been through all 111 sources so, I hope you don't mind but, I'd like to ask another reviewer to once over this in case I've missed something. Good luck with the nom though. Fuebaey (talk) 22:55, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
- No problem. Thanks for all of your feedback! -- Rhain1999 (talk to me) 06:11, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
- Mentioning the BAFTA wins is a good idea; unfortunately, the five wins isn't record-breaking (many games have previously won six), but it's still very impressive. How about:
- If you don't think that the sources are reliable maybe go for a different subset? How about mentioning that it took the most BAFTA game awards in 2014. The Academy is known more for their film and television awards so a video game winning five could be intriguing. Or possibly an American award, since it's an American production, but I'm not sure what would be considered the most prestigious video game award there. Fuebaey (talk) 00:13, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the feedback. I'm having trouble coming up with an alternative for the hook; with an article like this, there's not many options. Could the hook possibly be changed to "winning over 100 awards"? An alternative would be to try and list the 230+ awards, but I'm not sure how others would look upon that, considering some of the awards come from unreliable sources. Let me know. -- Rhain1999 (talk to me) 01:21, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
- Okay, could you change the hook then? When I first read the hook I clicked on the link to see which 230+ awards it received, but was disappointed when there was no mention of this in the article. I think most readers would expect at least that when clicking on the hook. Fuebaey (talk) 19:31, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review. I understand your concerns. I believe the reason that the DualShockers post is different to the blog post is because the latter has been updated since the former was posted. Also, the reason that the article and infobox only lists 89 total wins is because a lot of the sites that gave the game awards are deemed unreliable (but awards are awards, and I believe they can still add to the "230+" statistic). I've just gone ahead and corrected the counting problem in the infobox (I have to do it manually, so I was expecting some errors). Let me know exactly what else you'd like me to do. -- Rhain1999 (talk to me) 00:49, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
