Template:Did you know nominations/Joseph D. Bryant
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The result was: promoted by BlueMoonset (talk) 06:28, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
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Joseph D. Bryant
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- ... that Joseph D. Bryant (pictured) secretly operated on President Grover Cleveland to remove a cancerous growth from the roof of his mouth?
5x expanded by Jet Jaguar (talk). Self nominated at 02:09, 10 April 2014 (UTC).
No QPQ but it appears that nominator has not had any DYKs before so that's OK. Article is five-folded expanded within the last five days. Sources are mainly contemporary obituaries; I don't think such dated sources are optimal, but probably within policy as most of the article is pretty basic CV like stuff and doesn't include controversies or other things that needs contemporary judgements. There are some direct copying from the sources, but as they date back to 1914, I believe the sources are out of copyright. The fact in the hook is interesting, but not sourced! It needs an inline citation. It is mentioned and sourced in the Grover Cleveland, so maybe you could use the source there. The lede should probably incude something about the professorships he held. Regards, Iselilja (talk) 17:24, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
- I've added the academic credentials to the lede and an inline reference for the surgery on Cleveland. Any more suggestions are appreciated, this is the first time I've substantially expanded an article. Some of the text is copied from the sources, I basically stitched together two contemporary obituaries. I believed this was acceptable because, like you say, it's basic CV stuff from a 100-year-old source. Jet Jaguar (talk) 00:45, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
5x expansion verified. New enough, long enough. It is my understanding that you do not have the freedom to copy and paste from The New York Sun or the New-York Tribune no matter how old the papers are, and I see that a copyright infringement investigation was opened on this article. I went ahead and added a number of book references, and did some copyediting to remove close paraphrasing. The image is public domain in the U.S. but may not be public domain outside the U.S., per the Commons description page. No QPQ needed for first-time DYK nominator. Hook ref verified and cited inline. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 23:26, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
- I've added the academic credentials to the lede and an inline reference for the surgery on Cleveland. Any more suggestions are appreciated, this is the first time I've substantially expanded an article. Some of the text is copied from the sources, I basically stitched together two contemporary obituaries. I believed this was acceptable because, like you say, it's basic CV stuff from a 100-year-old source. Jet Jaguar (talk) 00:45, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
