Template:Did you know nominations/John Ogilby

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Vaticidalprophet (talk) 16:47, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

John Ogilby

A surveyor's wheel, as used to measure England's roads (detail from the frontispiece of Britannia)
A surveyor's wheel, as used to measure England's roads (detail from the frontispiece of Britannia)
  • ... that John Ogilby (1600–1676) published the first road atlas of England and Wales to be based on actual surveys and measurements and drawn to scale? Source: Mary Sponberg Pedley; Matthew H. Edney, eds. (15 May 2020). "Ogilby, John". The History of Cartography. Vol. 4: Cartography in the European Enlightenment. University of Chicago Press. p. 1071. ISBN 9780226339221.[failed verification]
    • ALT1: ... that John Ogilby (1600–1676) saved the manuscript of his translation of the complete works of Virgil from destruction in a shipwreck because he had wrapped it in a waterproof cloth? Source: Ereira, Alan (2016). The nine lives of John Ogilby: Britain's master map maker and his secrets. London: Duckworth. p. 121. ISBN 9780715652268.
    • ALT2: ... that the "one inch to a mile" scale, used for British Ordnance Survey maps until the 1970s, was first specified in 1675 by John Ogilby (1600–1676)? Source: Ereira, Alan (2016). The nine lives of John Ogilby: Britain's master map maker and his secrets. London: Duckworth. p. 346. ISBN 9780715652268.
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: Let me know if a photo of the page(s) cited from Ereira (2016) would be helpful to confirm the source.

Improved to Good Article status by JMF (talk). Self-nominated at 18:58, 1 September 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/John Ogilby; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - not exactly stated in bio.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: @JMF: Good article, but the article doesn't state that it was the first road atlas of its kind. Onegreatjoke (talk) 00:56, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

@Onegreatjoke:, do you mean the article in History of Cartography or the Wikipedia article? If the former, then I can't resolve. If the latter, I can [and will in any event] add a supporting citation (Ereira says that it was the first in Europe; of course China had done it centuries earlier). --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 08:41, 4 September 2023 (UTC))
I'm afraid I have committed an inadvertent WP:SYNTH violation, so I must withdraw the first proposed DYK. There are a number of sources that support each component of that assertion but none that says it in single unequivocal statement. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 15:21, 4 September 2023‎ (UTC) (Deleted my initial lame "look, a squirrel" response. I absolutely should have checked rather than rely on my memory.) --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 19:54, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
The other two hooks seem to be fine. Onegreatjoke (talk) 00:52, 11 September 2023 (UTC)