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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:25, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

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I Admit (R. Kelly song) edit

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  • Reviewed: This is my first DYK nomination, and is exempt from QPQ.
  • Comment: Sources:
    • "I Admit" is a 19-minute song by American singer R. Kelly.[1]
    • Despite the song's title and Kelly's repetition of the lyric "I admit it, I did it" in the chorus,[2] "I Admit" does not contain any criminal admissions.[3]
    • Several reviewers characterized "I Admit" as an act of trolling, since the name of the song overstates the magnitude of the admissions contained within the lyrics.[4][5][6]
    • Elyse Wanshel of HuffPost noted similarities between this song and If I Did It,[7] a book by O. J. Simpson that contains a hypothetical description of the alleged murder in Simpson's murder case.[8]

References

  1. ^ Darrington, Julius "A&R" (July 23, 2018). "R.Kelly "I Admit"". SoundCloud. Retrieved July 23, 2018.
  2. ^ Ettachfini, Leila; Burke, Sarah (July 24, 2018). "R. Kelly's Victimhood Doesn't Excuse His Alleged Sexual Misconduct". Broadly. Retrieved January 8, 2019.
  3. ^ Gajanan, Mahita (July 23, 2018). "A Defense Attorney Listened to R. Kelly's 19-Minute Song 'I Admit.' This Is What She Thinks". Time. Retrieved January 7, 2019.
  4. ^ Britton, Luke Morgan (July 25, 2018). "R Kelly's 19-minute mea culpa 'I Admit', dissected and analysed". NME. Retrieved July 25, 2018.
  5. ^ Johnson, Kevin C. (August 12, 2018). "Muting R. Kelly: Our music critic is finished with the Pied Piper of R&B". St. Louis Post-Dispatch. Retrieved January 7, 2019.
  6. ^ Williams, Stereo (July 23, 2018). "R. Kelly's Delusional Response to Sex Cult Allegations in 'I Admit': I'm the Victim Here". The Daily Beast. Retrieved January 7, 2019.
  7. ^ Wanshel, Elyse (July 23, 2018). "R. Kelly Releases Song 'I Admit' And It Does The Opposite Of That". HuffPost. Retrieved January 8, 2019.
  8. ^ "O.J. book sparks new outrage - The Boston Globe". Associated Press. November 16, 2006. Retrieved January 7, 2019 – via The Boston Globe.

Improved to Good Article status by Newslinger (talk). Self-nominated at 03:06, 24 March 2019 (UTC).

  • Good article, in time, long enough, sourced, inline hook citations check out, QPQ not needed. --Usernameunique (talk) 18:59, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Hi, I came by to promote this. While you've provided a lot of alts basically saying the same thing, I think you're assuming that most readers know about Kelly's background and can therefore understand/appreciate these hooks. Personally, I've never heard of him. I think you would do better by adding more background to the hooks, like that while admitting to X, Y, and Z in his song "I Admit", R. Kelly makes no criminal admissions, or that in response to the song "I Admit", R. Kelly's ex-wife sang her own song, "Admit It", or that a critic compared the song to O. J. Simpson's book (this last one will for sure draw readers). Yoninah (talk) 23:08, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
    Hi Yoninah, I tried to stay away from specific details related to Kelly's sex scandals and allegations, since WP:DYKHOOK advises against "hooks that focus unduly on negative aspects of living individuals" and Kelly's sexual abuse trials are still ongoing. I provided all of these alts to let the reviewer include as much information as they are comfortable with, while still adhering to this rule. However, the hook ended up being less controversial than I had expected.

    Thanks for suggesting the inclusion of If I Did It. Here is an alt that hopefully gives more of what you're looking for:

    ALT8:... that R. Kelly's 19-minute song "I Admit", which contains no criminal admissions, was described as an act of trolling and compared to O. J. Simpson's book If I Did It?
    I've added a new supporting source to the list of sources above. ​— Newslinger talk 08:01, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Thank you, ALT8 looks very good. Since I suggested something along those lines, pinging @Usernameunique: to review ALT8. Yoninah (talk) 18:50, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
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