Template:Did you know nominations/Herbert Olivecrona

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The result was: promoted by PFHLai (talk) 09:32, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Herbert Olivecrona

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• ... that Herbert Olivecrona founded the field of Swedish neurosurgery, and has an award named after him which is referred to as the "Nobel Prize of Neurosurgery"?

Created/expanded by Elonka (talk). Self nom at 17:33, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

• Reviewed: Julius Yego.

Please fill out the Bare URLs with proper citations.. (--Dr. Blofeld)

- I fixed citations. Good to go. --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 17:37, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Tomtomn00, I went ahead and expanded them a bit further, too. --Elonka 17:53, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

I would now give it double-tick(s), but I can't. :) --Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 18:30, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

• This article has a prose portion of only 1201 characters according to DYKcheck, making it ineligible for DYK, which has an absolute minimum of 1500 for all articles. (The list of winners does not count, nor should it.) It needs to be expanded; it's currently a stub with a list appended to it, despite what the talk page says. As far as I can tell from the above, the only thing that was ever checked here was the citations, which is insufficient for a DYK review. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:12, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
  • Sorry about that, I should have counted before nominating. In any case, the prose section of the article has been expanded to DYK standards at this point. More in the works too, but this should pass the DYK hurdle. --Elonka 22:33, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
• The article now needs a full review. I'd do it, but I've just done a major reorganization of the article into sections, so I shouldn't also do the review. You'll want to take a look; you might want to move things around a bit, and perhaps move the one cited fact in the intro into the body of the article (though the intro could be a bit longer; you eventually want something important from each section in the intro. I did make sure that each paragraph had at least one citation, even if many use the same source, because DYK requires that. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:26, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

• The article itself looks fine to me. However, I'd suggest the following alternative hooks, because "field of Swedish neurosurgery" sounds odd to me:

• ALT1: ... that Herbert Olivecrona brought neurosurgery to Sweden?
• ALT2: ... that Herbert Olivecrona was the first Swedish neurosurgeon?--Carabinieri (talk) 17:49, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

I thought "Nobel Prize of Neurosurgery" was the main draw of the original hook. Could we add to either ALT ', and an award named for him has been called the "Nobel Prize of Neurosurgery" ', or a similar phrase, just before the question mark? BlueMoonset (talk) 18:18, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

I think the fact that he brought neurosurgery to Sweden is more impressive, particularly since there's no indication that the prize is important at all. Nevertheless, I'd suggest:

• ALT3: ... that Herbert Olivecrona brought neurosurgery to Sweden and therefore became the namesake of the so-called "Nobel Prize of Neurosurgery"?--Carabinieri (talk) 12:33, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

• Looks good, AGF on Swedish sources. Prefer ALT1. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:52, 26 May 2012 (UTC)