Template:Did you know nominations/Henri Julien (Motor Sports)
- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: rejected by Allen3 talk 14:38, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
Insufficient progress toward resolving outstanding issues
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Henri Julien (Motor Sports)
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- ... that Henri Julien founded and managed the smallest Formula 1 team of the 1980s with only six employees including the driver, while the more established teams had more than 100 employees at that time?
Created/expanded by NearEMPTiness (talk), Matthias v.d. Elbe (talk). Nominated by NearEMPTiness (talk) at 13:29, 21 July 2013 (UTC).
Article new enough, long enough etc. etc. Hook referenced with offline reference. Only problem I can see is the length of the hook: it is over the 200 characters allowed. Can i suggest:- Alt 1 ... that Henri Julien founded and managed the smallest Formula 1 team of the 1980s with only six employees including the driver; more established teams had more than 100 employees?
- or just simply: Alt 2 that Henri Julien founded and managed the smallest Formula 1 team of the 1980s?
--Rushton2010 (talk) 01:27, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
- How about mentioning the six employees but without the extraneous detail:
- ALT3: ... that Henri Julien founded and managed the smallest Formula 1 team of the 1980s, with only six employees including the driver?
- I have some issues with the article, though:
- Several unreferenced paragraphs
- The "Se battre oui..." quote – it's not clear who said this, or what relevance it has
- One reference reads: "Hodges: Rennwagen von A-Z nach 1945, S. 8 (German)." This isn't enough information for the reader to locate the source (I certainly can't make any sense of it)
- The last two points won't necessarily disqualify the article from DYK, but they still ought to be fixed. DoctorKubla (talk) 19:44, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
- How about mentioning the six employees but without the extraneous detail:
- I like ALT3. I have fixed the "Se battre oui..." quote and the "Hodges" reference in the article. The German article is today on the de:wp:sg? title page.--NearEMPTiness (talk) 10:19, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
- Okay, you just need a few more inline citations. The DYK rule of thumb is one per paragraph. DoctorKubla (talk) 19:41, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
- I personally think the number of inline citations are sufficient, but to comply with the DYK rules, I asked the author of the German original, to make references to these at the end of each paragraph. --NearEMPTiness (talk) 17:47, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- Hold on, have you actually read the source that supports the hook fact (La Grande Encyclopédie de la Formule 1)? DoctorKubla (talk) 22:06, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
It has been almost a month, and the inline paragraph cites have not appeared, the important question by DoctorKubla has not been answered (we can't give an AGF tick on a hook fact if the author has not actually read the hook source), and the article has acquired a copyedit tag that has been unaddressed for over four weeks. Closing the nomination as unsuccessful. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:01, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
