Template:Did you know nominations/Eucalyptus Restaurant

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:48, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

The Eucalyptus edit

  • ... that the original The Eucalyptus restaurant in Jerusalem was constructed around a living tree? Source: "In 1960, as a young man, Chef Moshe Basson planted a eucalyptus tree in the yard next to his family's small stone house in the southern Jerusalem neighborhood of Talpiot. Twenty-five years later, he built a restaurant around the tree, with its branches shooting through the ceiling, surprisingly enough naming it Eucalyptus." (The Jerusalem Post)

Created by E.M.Gregory (talk). Nominated by Yoninah (talk) at 00:44, 13 November 2018 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: valereee (talk) 14:48, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

  • @Valereee: thank you for the quick review. I have already edited the page but have not removed the tag yet. What close paraphrasing are you talking about? Earwig's shows nothing. Yoninah (talk) 14:53, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Hi, Yoninah The read of the article sourced sounded very similar to me, but I didn't parse it line by line, so earwig is good enough for me! Let me go edit it for a minute, brb valereee (talk) 15:10, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Hi, Yoninah To be honest, a second read still felt like promotional copy, but I am having a hard time putting my finger on it as the language used is definitely sourced accurately. Perhaps it's that there are no sources that seem to criticize anything. Did you find any sources that were critical? A quick check found a rave from Forbes -- do you know of any that provided critical review? I did remove the tage valereee (talk) 15:27, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
  • @Valereee: I nominated this yesterday to make the 7-day deadline, but I would appreciate a little more time to expand it with reliable refs. I provided a bunch of good refs to the page creator to build the page more encyclopedically. Could you give us some more time? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 15:31, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Of course! No rush! I only chose it because I was looking for a restaurant article to review and your hook hooked me :) valereee (talk) 15:35, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
  • @Valereee:, I'm puzzled as to why you removed the improvement tag after saying that you yourself consider it unbalanced. Deb (talk) 15:44, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Deb I was looking at WP:DYKNOT and thinking that for purposes of DYK, an article doesn't need to be perfect. Does a tag disqualify? If not, happy to add it back. Oh, are we commenting in the wrong spot? I'll move the line. valereee (talk) 16:00, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
  • A new article, Moshe Basson, has just been created and we would like to propose this double hook:
Basson cooking in his restaurant
Basson cooking in his restaurant
  • ALT1: ... that chef Moshe Basson (pictured) forages for wild plants and herbs in the Jerusalem hills to use in his traditional regional cuisine at The Eucalyptus restaurant?
  • The QPQ for 2 articles should cover both these nominations.
  • However, Deb has pointed out some duplication between the articles, so we need another day or two to fix that up. @Valereee: I'll let you know when we're ready for re-review. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 11:15, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Yoninah I assume I need to review Moshe Basson as well as The Eucalyptus? Do I move a second template in? Or do you start a second entry? valereee (talk) 11:00, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • @Valeree: You don't have to review Moshe Basson if you don't want to. (We'll just call for another reviewer.) But if you want to do it, your review can continue on this template. But please hold tight — both articles are still undergoing revision. I'll let you know when we're ready. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 16:44, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • No worries at all, I wasn't trying to noodge! I was asking because I'm happy to do Moshe Basson too, and I'd like to do another because I've got three DYK up myself and am looking for a third article because although those are only my 2nd, 3rd, and 4th DYKs I'd just kind of like to keep up. valereee (talk) 17:20, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • OK, Valereee, the articles are sufficiently different now to be ready for review. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 02:33, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Image added. Yoninah (talk) 02:40, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Eucalyptus okay, starting Basson. I'm accepting as good faith you made the effort to find other reviews and agree with Deb that simply not listing any is probably the solution. I insert a new template for Basson? valereee (talk) 13:07, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Re: Basson Yoninah the language on swarm of locusts and maqluba prep/presentation are nearly identical. Can you rewrite them for one? Do both need to be in both articles? valereee (talk) 13:44, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
  • @Valereee: I have addressed your concerns. I removed the kosher species description from Moshe Basson, since the restaurant hosts it, but I have left maqluba in both articles, aiming for different wording. Yoninah (talk) 18:40, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

both articles and hook ALT1 valereee (talk) 19:24, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! Yoninah (talk) 21:04, 27 November 2018 (UTC)