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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 00:02, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

El Hijo de Dos Caras edit

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... that professional wrestler El Hijo de Dos Caras needed an opponent's help to hold a ladder so he could win a Ladder match as planned??

ALT1:... that professional wrestler El Hijo de Dos Caras wrestles wearing a modified version of his father, Dos Caras', wrestling mask??
Reviewed: Lee Remick (The Go-Betweens song)
Comment: I took a redirect and turned it into an article

Converted from a redirect by MPJ-DK (talk). Self-nominated at 01:50, 13 September 2015 (UTC).

Length and history verified. But I need to know more about the sources used for the hook facts. For the main hook, the source is a blogspot blog. Is Estrellas de Ring considered a reliable source within the Mexican wrrestling community? For the second, I ran the source through Google Translate and the nearest thing that supports the hook fact is a comment sort of asking the question. I think we need a better source than that. Daniel Case (talk) 03:35, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Yes it is considered reliable for what it is, match results and interviews with wrestlers. The author Ruiz Reyes writes about lucha libre for a number of different sites that covers Lucha Libre.

You mean the "hold the ladder" comment? First of all I want to point out the first picture in the actual article, showing Morgan (opponent) and referees holding the ladder for Hijo de Dos Caras. (Is that considered 1000 words on the subject ;-) kidding) Also this from my built in browser translator "In the final moments, I tired of so many failed attempts and a third ladder in the ring, the Pirate Morgan knowing that weight nobody could help, I'd rather help the son of two faces hung literally belt that resisted loose tie that held it down and could finally be declared Heavyweight new monarch of the IWRG".

I hope that helps clarify? MPJ-US 12:29, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Well, that helps with the main hook, which I like more anyway. My query about the source cited for ALT1 is still open, though, and I'd rather not clear this for takeoff before either a) we have resolved this or b) we've decided to drop it. Daniel Case (talk) 05:14, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

woops did not realise there was a question for the alt1 as well. That is sourced in the "Hijo del Dos Caras" section to an interview in SuperLuchas magazine 507. MPJ-US 11:33, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

@MPJ-DK: Yes, I had looked at that (I assume this page is what we're talking about?) As I said, what I got from translating the page is that one of the commenters sort of asks the questions. Comments sections are not usually considered reliable sources. And all the content there that I can see is commentary. Is something paywalled? Is this in the print version but not online? I don't see anything like an interview. Daniel Case (talk) 02:02, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

I see the confusion now, it is a print magazine i subscribe to, the link is to the identifier of the magazine. The actual article was not shown on that webpage. I could remove the link i guess since print sources don't necessarily need them. MPJ-US 13:23, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

I'll take it on good faith ... yes, you might want do that. Daniel Case (talk) 19:06, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Done. And thank you. MPJ -US 19:37, 29 October 2015 (UTC)