Template:Did you know nominations/Effie Maud Aldrich Morrison
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 12:26, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
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Effie Maud Aldrich Morrison edit
Typical senior housing of Roosevelt Park
- ... that Effie Maud Aldrich Morrison originated the concept and was the instigator for the plan of the first senior housing project in the United States (example houses pictured)?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Rickard Olsson
- Comment to Promoter: Can we be first in queue with the picture used. Thanks.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:46, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
Created by Doug Coldwell (talk) and 7&6=thirteen (talk). Nominated by User:Doug Coldwell at 12:24, 20 October 2015 (UTC).
The article is new enough and long enough, the hook is interesting and a QPQ review was performed. However, sourcing is an issue. The biographical details appear sourced from Find A Grave, a source that is generally not considered reliable. The material from Famous First Facts is taken largely verbatim from that book. At this point the article should not pass, but I am confident that the article could be updated to meet standards as long as it is updated with better sourcing and more work on wording the material from the appropriate sources. Alansohn (talk) 14:46, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- I'll work on that and see if I can solve the issues.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:13, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- Let me know on my talk page if I can help with anything. The rewording of the material from FFF should be simple. Finding better sources about Morrison seems more challenging, but I will poke around for additional material. Alansohn (talk) 15:18, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- O.K. Thanks for help. Going to lunch for awhile. When I get back I will continue on the improvements.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 16:53, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- Doing some additional research now. I'll see what I can come up with.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:16, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- O.K. Thanks for help. Going to lunch for awhile. When I get back I will continue on the improvements.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 16:53, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- Let me know on my talk page if I can help with anything. The rewording of the material from FFF should be simple. Finding better sources about Morrison seems more challenging, but I will poke around for additional material. Alansohn (talk) 15:18, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- I'll work on that and see if I can solve the issues.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:13, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
FYI, Earwig copy violation detector: Effie Maud Aldrich Morrison looks clear to me. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 21:44, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- 7&6=thirteen, the sentence "The federal government’s Works Progress Administration supplied $34,571 for the project." is taken verbatim from the item in Famous First Facts. The quote at the bottom of the article matches the text in my hard copy of FFF, which is not available online. A look at the rest of the quotation seems to be a close paraphrase issue. Can you take a more detailed look at the quotation at the bottom of the article and the text in the article and make a determination on a non-electronic basis? Alansohn (talk) 04:16, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- Alansohn As you say, that's all part of an attributed quotation that appears in a footnote. In that sense, I would hope it would be an exact copy of the text. I don't see a close paraphrasing issue, since it is part of a quote. I was not (yet) doing a WP:DYK Review, but I could. Earwig was merely mentioned as a guidepost for further review. I'll look at the rest of the article, however. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 11:13, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- I reformatted the article to make it clear that this is a quotation.
- At least one paragraph needs a citation, which I have marked. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 11:32, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Alansohn: Done with rewording, citations and references. Is it good to go?--Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:22, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- I see that Doug Coldwell totally eliminated the quote and the footnote. I think this is overkill, but ... 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:46, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Alansohn: I have continued to expand the article.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 22:29, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- I see that Doug Coldwell totally eliminated the quote and the footnote. I think this is overkill, but ... 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:46, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Alansohn: Done with rewording, citations and references. Is it good to go?--Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:22, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
Good to go. Thanks to both Doug Coldwell and 7&6=thirteen for expanding the article and addressing the issues raised. Kudos. Alansohn (talk) 22:58, 21 October 2015 (UTC)