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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 10:10, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

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Director General of the Indian Coast Guard

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Created/expanded by Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk). Self-nominated at 15:27, 10 July 2016 (UTC).

Some issues found

  • ✗ This article is old and was created on 13:05, 26 June 2016 (UTC) and expanded till 29 June 2016.
  • ✗ Readable prose is less than 1,500 characters.
  • ✓ Article contains appropriate citations.
    • ✓ One citation per paragraph.
    • ✓ Sources are properly labelled. However, it should be under the reference section.
    • ✓ Reference do not have bare URLs.
  • ✗ Pending maintenance tag.
  • ✗ Possible plagiarism issues.
  • ✗ Hook is properly sourced. However, the hook is not interesting enough as to a neutral reader, it does not tell why is this "first" a big deal.
  • ✓ QPQ done. This is nominator's first DYK nomination.
  • Note. Nominator had placed the DYK under wrong date (10 Jul 2016). DYK nomination should have been filed under the date article was created or expansion started (whatever is later).

Nominator to address these issues. Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 17:34, 10 July 2016 (UTC)  Comment: @AKS.9955: Yes, the article has been created a draft initially, so I was unable to submit it to the DYK. It has accepted yesterday by Tavix by deleting the previous redirect of the article. So I submitted it yesterday. And regarding the copypaste tag you have put on the article, there is copypaste detected by Copyvios detector 1 and wholly it shows 18.0% and violation unlikely; they are the names of the Director Generals. As per the hook, generally in any a coast guard officer is expected to head the force, but in Indian Coast Guard, an Indian naval officer of Vice Admiral rank is deputed to head the Indian Coast Guard. But Rajendra Singh is the first coast guard officer to be the Director General Ref. KCVelaga ☚╣✉╠☛ 02:44, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

  1. Date of creation: Ok.
  2. Copy-paste: Lets understand what the issue is. You have take text with slight changes from here, changed it a bit and inserted in the article. For example, the website uses phrase like "At CGHQ, he is assisted by four Deputy Director Generals of the rank of Inspector General, and other senior officers heading". The article uses exactly the same third person narration. Let's be clear, if there was a copyvio, I would have tagged the article for deletion and not for clean-up. Kindly resolve the issue.
  3. Prose length needs to be resolved.
  4. Hook: I understood what it meant. As I said earlier, "hook is not interesting enough as to a neutral reader, it does not tell why is this "first" a big deal". Please reword it and make it more explanatory. Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 05:24, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
  •  Comment: @AKS.9955: I have fixed the issues as far as possible and as per the hook; generally in every coast guard throughout the world, an officer from the same service will head the service, but it is different in the Indian Coast Guard. Until now only officers from the Indian Navy are deputed to head the coast guard. But this is the first time that a coast guard officer is appointed as the Director General. KCVelaga ☚╣✉╠☛ 14:17, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
@AKS.9955: Could please take time to review it? Regards, KCVelaga ☚╣✉╠☛ 14:14, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
  •  Comment: @Krishna Chaitanya Velaga:, I have cleaned-up article slightly. The article is very essay like and needs to be rewritten. Character count seems fine and the article creation date is also ok. However, please consider following;
  1. Please explain in Hook why this article is interesting. As an involved editor, I understand the significance but I am not sure about an un-involved reader (if he will find it interesting and the hook to be self-explanatory).
  2. I have done bit of re-writing, but the article still needs to be re-written for accuracy, clarity and to avoid duplication of information. For example, in the article, it is mentioned "Additional Director-General of Indian Coast Guard is equivalent to Vice Admiral (HAG Scale) of Indian Navy". Source cited is this. The source does not mention this fact.
  3. (Not mandatory for DYK) but please consider reviewing the referencing, citation and note styles and its uses. Please check few articles.
Let me know when you are ready. Thanks, Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 17:15, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
@AKS.9955: Per no.1, definitely a general reader will find it interesting because generally one expects an army officer to become the army chief, a naval officer to be the navy chief and an air force officer to be the air force chief. Likewise, the same is expected in the coastguard. But this is the first a coast-guard officer is appointed as the chief i.e as the Director General of Indian Coast Guard. Till now, naval officers of the rank of Vice Admiral have been deputed to the position. So, a general reader finds it interesting. Per no.2, I have added the appropriate sources. Per no.3, the referencing, citations and footnotes style is adopted from some of FAs, A-class articles and GAs such as Reg Saunders, Battle of Milne Bay, 2/9th Battalion (Australia), 7th Battalion (Australia), Battle of Sattelberg etc. If have an issue with the hook, please have a look at the alt2. Regards, KCVelaga ☚╣✉╠☛ 13:11, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
  • In view of the clarification above, giving green tick mark to the DYK nomination. Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. Hook ok and properly sourced. Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 18:52, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
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