Template:Did you know nominations/Cyclone Ula

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by Allen3 talk 12:13, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
Insufficient progress toward resolving outstanding issues

Cyclone Ula edit

Cyclone Ula on January 10, 2016
Cyclone Ula on January 10, 2016
  • Reviewed: Stone Hall, Nashville
  • Comment: The six affected nations are listed in the infobox and explained in prose (no outright statement of total) and the duration as a tropical cyclone was December 26, 2015 – January 12, 2016; the system is presently active (at the time of this nomination) as an extratropical cyclone north of New Zealand.

Created by Cyclonebiskit (talk). Self-nominated at 21:24, 12 January 2016 (UTC).

  • A few issues. First, the "outdated" template at the top was added by an anonymous user without explanation...does anything need to be updated? Second, the hook uses "17-day journey". According to the article, it began as a tropical disturbance on 26 December and was upgraded to tropical depression on 29 December at 21:00 UTC. Isn't the upgrade to tropical depression the point when it is considered to be a tropical cyclone? If so, using 21:00UTC December 29 to the transition to extratropical cyclone at 12:00UTC 12 January is 14 days. Of course this is confusing because in this basin, "tropical cyclone" is also used for the equivalent to "tropical storm", so many readers would probably associate "tropical storm" as a category 1 or higher tropical storm, not considering the time spent as a tropical depression. The main problem, though, is that the "Meteorological history" section goes from the upgrade to tropical depression to the transition to extratropical cyclone with nothing in between. Obviously, the lead has content that belongs in this section and is not found outside the lead (see WP:LEAD). Otherwise, the article is new enough and long enough and the QPQ and hook length are fine. AHeneen (talk) 21:25, 20 January 2016 (UTC)