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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Montanabw(talk) 11:19, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

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  • ALT1:... that over 3 million tractors were built at Banner Lane before production ceased in 2002?

5x expanded by Eddaido (talk) Red Sunset (talk). Self-nominated at 18:37, 7 February 2016 (UTC).

  • Review New and long enough. Timely nominated. Almost a 10X expansion confirmed. Hooks are both interesting, although I think "shadow factory" should be linked (that is a matter of taste and judgment), as many readers will be clueless. There is a countervailing argument that it makes the hook mysterious, more interesting and hookier. I think that there is too much close paraphrasing of the one on line source in the article. So copy editing, word substitution, reformatting and cuisinarting is called for. I did not have access to the off line sources, and I WP:AGF. The hook is cited and verified to the on line source. All paragraphs are cited. However, I don't see a QPQ, and believe one is required. Nominator's user page shows six DYKs. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:23, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
  • Its been a few years since I was relatively active on wiki and simply had a bit of spare time on my hands to make a few contributions; however, I wouldn't consider myself a competent reviewer so I guess my DYK application ends here. If I'd noticed the QPQ requirement I wouldn't have made the application in the first place, but thank you for your time and comments nevertheless! - Cheers Red Sunset 20:09, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
I am donating a QPQ: Template:Did you know nominations/The Music Machine. I would prefer that you succeed in this effort. Welcome back! 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:17, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
Ere! I wrote this article starting 9 days ago! Who is Red Sunset and of what account are his or her "contributions"!!! Eddaido (talk) 23:58, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
Sorry to tread on your toes Eddaido, I didn't intend to steal your thunder. Sincere apologies, but I just thought the article deserved a DYK and evidently didn't go about it the right way! I'm more than happy for you to take full credit for it. Red Sunset 18:38, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
Eddaido, Added you as a creator. You can both be co-creators. Not a Zero sum game. Neither of you had to do a QPQ, and you both get the benefit of a DYK. Thanks for improving the article. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:49, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Please use Earwig's report, and make sure to clean up all of the close paraphrasing. The review on this article has not been completed. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:55, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Now fully "earwigged". BTW, if successful I'd rather you attributed the DYK to Eddaido since he was the originating editor - the main thing as far as I'm concerned is that the article gets noticed by a wider audience and attracts other editors to expand and improve the article.:) Red Sunset 20:17, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
Not quite sure what the above means but then I'm a foreigner who just grew up with Ford-Fergusons and the first Banner Lane product and was made a little angry to see the article was a redirect to woodland, if you please. About this nomination. I was just startled by events. May I say it has happened to me that I have landed on someone else's new article and made changes without looking to see it was in fact all new and a work in progress. I will add that some of the new angles put forward are, I think, incorrect and perhaps sources dubious. I'll wait until R S and co are done and come back for fixes - if still necessary. thanks, Eddaido (talk) 22:40, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
Over to you Eddaido now that the potential copyvios have been dealt with. As a point of interest, I spent five years serving an engineering apprenticeship there! Red Sunset 23:09, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
You are the nominator and independently would get recognition as such. And you did contribute to the article (just clearing out the close paraphrasing was a real service). I will make sure that Eddaido is credited as a creator. So, no worries.
WP:Dead horse.
Let's all work together and create an encyclopedia. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 22:36, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
  • Promoted with original hook
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