Talk:Yours Truly (Ariana Grande album)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Zanimum (talk · contribs) 02:11, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

I'll take this on.

Is there another source for the original album title? -- Zanimum (talk) 02:11, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Yes I just replaced it. STATic message me! 04:51, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! -- Zanimum (talk) 22:10, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Okay, so this is a quick one-over, not actually reading the article in any real way. I've taken care of a lot of the little things.

• You cite a review in Examiner in both the ratings chart and prose. A result of its pay model, Wikipedia blocks links to the site. How then are you justifying use of Examiner.com as a reference?
• Release and promotion: shouldn't they be "Popular Song" and The Origin of Love?

• Had no idea that was there, removed on sight. And thanks for fixing that. STATic message me! 23:26, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

The Listening Sessions

• Ariana will be opening for Beiber, last year?

I'll do another round of reviews once these are taken care of. -- Zanimum (talk) 22:10, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

• And fixed! STATic message me! 23:26, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Round two

Hi! Please don't be intimidated or despirited by the length of this review. I am always amazed at the amount of research that a music article takes, and the amount of work it takes to process all the different sources into an article. These are all small little tasks, there's nothing majorly wrong with the article, and you're well on your way to having a GA.

Intro

• "90s R&B music" --> "1990s R&B music"... remember, people will hopefully still be reading our words a century from now, and to them, the 90s are the 2090s.

 Done STATic message me! 21:40, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Background and conception

• Given the large change in the sound of the album, the pull quote should likely say "Ariana Grande, while developing the album, August 2012." Something like that, to let skimming reader know that it was only partway through the creative process.

Can you be more specific on what you are referring to? I am not sure which quote or sentence you are talking about. STATic message me! 21:40, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Release and promotion

• Grande promoted "The Way" on Y-100 five days before its debut on Seacrest? Y-100 was supposedly March 20, Seacrest March 25.
• "Top 40 radio concerts"... are these concerts on the radio, or concerts organized by radio stations? Perhaps "at several concerts produced for Top 40 radio stations", or something similar?
• We only need 2013 twice in the radio concert segment, once for the first date (Wango Tango), and in the "Kiss Concert 2013" name. Readers will realize that te KDWB and AMP gigs are also in 2013; we're writing for humans, not Siri. Incidentally, does Kiss 108's concert have a date?
• Given the controversy Grande's bed of roses song art caused, you'd be warranted to include it as a fair use image. You don't need to, but I wouldn't find its inclusion out of line.
• While Grande would have been the one to promote the tracklist, "she" didn't make pre-orders available. Perhaps "Grande revealed the official tracklist via iTunes on 7 August 2013, the date pre-orders for the album were made available." Something. But unless she was an indie artist with no label, others would make pre-orders available.
• Vevo sentence could do without the year, as the year was just mentioned in the pre-order sentence.
• "Popular Song" "includes expletives", but I doubt it "features" them, unless they make a big deal out of swearing in the song.
• Perhaps "again on The Today Show (where she performed an acoustic version of "The Way"), and Late Night With Jimmy Fallon."?

 Done Funny, I had yet to see that cover till now, just oozing with sexual overtones. Considering adding it. I changed it so that it says Republic Records made the pre-order available. STATic message me! 21:40, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

The Listening Sessions

• "In a radio interview with Power 106 on July 16, 2013, Grande stated that the tour would be expanded to more cities across the United States and other countries after her album's release." While the announcement is notable enough for coverage on the tour's page, it's not really relevant to the album. What is relevant to the album is whether the tour was actually expanded. Was it?

Removed, the source was not the best anyways. STATic message me! 21:40, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Singles

• So, rhythmic contemporary stations began airing the song September 10, or what? I'm confused by this sentence.

Corrected wording. A radio station can play any song whenever, but record labels service songs they decide to make singles to certain format stations throughout the country, which is what it is saying. STATic message me! 21:40, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Credits Passing.

References

• 38 to 41: date of publication
• 42: format
• 43: format
• 45: did any news source cover this tweet? Even though it's archives on twitlonger, you're not supposed to cite tweets without a backup source.
• 46: lacks a date of publication
• 58: Shorten "Ariana Grande: 'Yours Truly' - Album review - Music Review" to "Ariana Grande: 'Yours Truly' album review"
• 59: "Yours Truly Review Review | Music Reviews and News"; Edit to "Yours Truly Review".
• 59 and 65: same source, but they call it by different names, and use different templates.
• 63: bare URL ref
• 66, 68: have retrieved dates, but no date for the article. Is there a date?
• 70 to 73: even though three of the titles mention Billboard, the ref itself should also mention the publication title. "Prometheus Global Media"... could they have picked a more intimidating name for the publisher?
• 77: Site name missing.
• 81: MTV missing.

Doing these in a bit as it should take longer than the others. STATic message me! 21:40, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

@Zanimum: Sorry for the lag, two of my other GANs were being reviewed at the same time, on top of all the rest of the work on here along with real life. Anyways I believe I have fixed everything you detailed here and hahaha you are right about Prometheus Global Media, I never thought about that till now. STATic message me! 19:10, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

External links Doesn't Grande's website or Republic's website have a page for this album?

Her website is basicly just a listing of all her social media posts, it does not seem to that in-depth about anything at all. And Republic only has a tag page. STATic message me! 21:40, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

There's barely anything that I haven't review yet, so the third and final round of reviewing should be comparatively breezy to this bit of a slog. -- Zanimum (talk) 21:00, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Fantastic to hear, thanks a lot for taking the time to do this. STATic message me! 21:40, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Third round

There is no third round! I still had a few hundred words that I hadn't reviewed, which were supposed to be the basis of your third round, but actually, they're a-ok. Congrats, you've done a good job bringing things up to standard, it's a solid GA! -- Zanimum (talk) 21:32, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

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