Talk:When We Were Young (Adele song)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 09:37, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

Good Article review progress box Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

I will start on this today! --K. Peake 09:37, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for taking this! Very excited for this one.--NØ 11:11, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• Dean Street Studios → Dean Street in the infobox per the usage of studios in the parameter of the same name
• WP:OVERLINK of Adele under songwriters
• Add a comma after third studio album
• "Adele and Tobias Jesso Jr. wrote it," → "Adele and Tobias Jesso Jr. wrote the song,"
• Mention how the song was written as the third sentence of the lead since this is notable here
• The release date is 22 January 2016 not 20 January
• Pipe ballad to Sentimental ballad
• ""When We Were Young" has piano instrumentation" → "it has piano instrumentation"
• "Inspired by the imagery" → "Inspired by the vision" or something similar since imagery is not appropriate here
• Re-word the sentence to mention the song reached the top 10 in 11 countries, including two or three notable ones
• Add a sentence afterwards mentioning notable certifications
• "The Ellen DeGeneres Show, and" → "The Ellen DeGeneres Show and"

Background and release

• Img looks good!
• "who had produced many songs" → "a producer of many songs"
• Add the release year of 21
• Remove overly obvious wikilink on Los Angeles
• She actually did work with Tobias Jesso Jr. so is writing expressed interest really the appropriate description?
• "and they spent almost three days" → "and they spent about three days" per the source
• Only "When We Were Young" is sourced as being created
• The house location is only sourced as in Los Angeles, not Brentwood
• "melodies and lyrics."" → "melodies and lyrics"." per MOS:QUOTE
• Pipe ballads to Sentimental ballad
• "and started a" → "and started creating a"
• "He thought it had" → "He thought the song had"
• Italicise The Fader
• "he pushed her beyond" → "he pushed Adele beyond"
• "cry to it."" → "cry to it"." per the source
• Italicise 60 Minutes
• "wondering what would be" → "questioning what would be"
• Pipe digital download to Music download
• "in some countries" → "in various countries" also, only one country is sourced
• "Its official artwork features" → "The official artwork features"
• "of her younger self."" → "of her younger self"."
• "called it "adorable,"" → "called it "adorable","

Composition and lyrical interpretation

• "sample of "When We Were Young"'s" → "sample of the song's" on the audio sample text
• "reminisces past memories" → "reminisces about past memories"
• "engineered the song, and plays" → "engineered the song and plays" per British English
• "synthesizer, and percussion." → "synthesizer and percussion." with the wikilink
• "plays the piano, and" → "plays the piano and"
• "It incorporates bass, drums, and guitar in its instrumentation, was" → "The song incorporates bass, drums and guitar in its instrumentation, was"
• "in London, and mixed at" → "in London and mixed at" with the pipe
• ""When We Were Young" is a" → "Musically, "When We Were Young" is a"
• Italicise i-D
• "considered it "a 70s styled shimmery disco ballad."" → "considered the song "a 70s styled shimmery disco ballad"." per MOS:QUOTE
• ""somber piano chords," which" → ""somber piano chords", which"
• "show off her staggering, empathic voice."" → "show off [Adele's] staggering, empathic voice"." per MOS:QUOTE
• "come-to-Jesus money note."" → "come-to-Jesus money note"."
• "Adele described it as" → "Adele described the song as"
• "to the work of Elton John, and" → "to the work of Elton John and"

• Not done as this makes it sound like "The Way We Were" was a duet between John and Streisand.

• Rest of the section soon!

• Done up to here! I've kept all the oxford commas. Unless you absolutely insist, I think combing through the article and removing them will be an unnecessary and tedious task. Regards.--NØ 15:48, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

• It looks good so far; I did some minor copy editing for you though.

• "The song "finds her" → "The song "finds [Adele]"
• "it's even over."" → "it's even over"."
• "in real time," singing:" → "in real time", singing:"
• "she cries about" → "Adele cries about"
• Italicise The Atlantic
• "who 'everybody loves.'"" → "who 'everybody loves'"."
• "In an interview with SiriusXM," → "In an interview with Sirius XM," with the wikilink
• "In a New York Times song by song analysis," → "In a song by song analysis by The New York Times," with the wikilink
• "off the album 25,[29] and later revealed that her" → "off 25,[29] and later revealed her"
• The lyric is not mentioned by the source

Critical reception

• Retitle to Reception per the rankings at the end
• "received acclaim from music critics." → "was met with acclaim from music critics."
• AllMusic should not be italicised
• "with its nostalgic theme." → "with the nostalgic theme."
• Pipe Consequence of Sound to Consequence (publication)
• "selected it as" → "selected the song as"
• "positive about her writing skills," → "positive about Adele's writing skills,"
• Pipe Inquirer to Philippine Daily Inquirer
• "remarked that "a single" → "remarked, "A single"
• Pipe The Huffington Post to HuffPost
• "singers alive today"." → "singers alive today."" per MOS:QUOTE on full sentences
• "midlife crisis—that won't" → "midlife crisis. That won't" per the source's usage of sentences
• Too much reviewer introductions using of here; try to vary with introductions like from instead at points
• "praised her "incredible," → "praised Adele's "incredible,"
• "sultriness on the verses."" → "sultriness on the verses"."
• "blossom of Adele's voice."" → "blossom of Adele's voice"."
• "it a "mature [...] torchy ballad,"" → "the song a "mature [...] torchy ballad","
• "perform in her sleep."" → "perform in her sleep"."
• "of PopMatters was praiseful, naming it" → "of PopMatters was praiseful, naming the song"
• "25 is worth" → "25 is worth"
• Move the Time part to the start of the next para since that belongs with rankings
• Remove the several music critics part so the above can join this para

• I moved it to being the second sentence as I think that works as well.

• "as her fifth-best," → "as Adele's fifth-best,"
• "elaborated: "she spins" → "elaborated that "she spins"
• Wikilink The Guardian

Commercial performance

• Change to double platinum and mention that the certification was in the United Kingdom

• The official title of the award here is "2× Platinum", not double platinum.

• "It reached number 14" → "The song reached number 14"
• Should platinum really be capitalised?

• Yup, my explanation from the "Happier Than Ever" GAN applies here as well I suppose.

• "and earned a 5× Platinum" → "and earned a quintuple platinum" mentioning that this was in Canada
• Mention the charts the Australia and New Zealand positions were on as well as that the certifications were in the countries
• "and Gold in Belgium,[70] Mexico." → "and Gold in Belgium and Mexico." moving [70] to the end of the sentence, also should gold really be capitalised?

Live performances

• The Genting Arena performance is not mentioned in prose, so either write this out or use a different img
• "on 24 February 2016." → "on 24 February."
• Mention that the Glastonbury performance was part of the encore
• The tour name Adele Live 2016 is not sourced

Covers

• Retitle to Cover versions
• "her powerful vocals."" → "her powerful vocals"." per MOS:QUOTE

Credits and personnel

• Use {{spaced ndash}} so there is the right space between credits and personnel
• Pipe backing vocals to Backing vocalist
• Pipe percussion to Percussion instrument

Charts

Weekly charts

• See MOS:TABLECAPTION for the second table

Year-end charts

• Pipe Plötutíóindi to Music of Iceland

Certifications

• Good

Release history

• None of these columns should be sortable

See also

• Pipe List of number-one dance singles of 2016 (U.S.) to List of Billboard Dance Club Songs number ones of 2016

References

• Copyvio score looks fairly good at 35.5%!
• Shouldn't Earone be cited as publisher instead on ref 13?
• Pipe Plugged In to Focus on the Family on ref 19
• Fix MOS:QWQ issues with refs 23 and 25
• Pipe Consequence of Sound to Consequence (publication) on refs 32 and 76, removing it from the title of the first ref
• Pipe Inquirer to Philippine Daily Inquirer on ref 34
• Pipe The Huffington Post to HuffPost on ref 35
• Ref 75 is missing a work/website/publisher; add whichever one is appropriate

• It seemed to point to Just Jared Jr. which has sketchy reliability so I have replaced this.

• Wikilink Rolling Stone on ref 83 and remove the Andy Black part
• Pipe Mahasz to Association of Hungarian Record Companies on ref 123
• Pipe Plötutíóindi to Music of Iceland on ref 124

External links

• Good

Final comments and verdict

•  On hold until all of the issues are fixed; this took just as long as I thought! --K. Peake 10:48, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

• Everything should be addressed now, K. Peake. Thanks a lot for the review and apologies for some of those source-text integrity issues in the Background section, I should've gone over that once before the nomination. Hope you have a great week!--NØ 12:15, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

• MaranoFan All good, apart from why is Andy Black still mentioned in ref 83 when that source says nothing about him? --K. Peake 07:12, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

• Kyle Peake Fixed now!--NØ 07:18, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

• ✓ Pass now, nice job on cleaning up this somewhat messy article! --K. Peake 08:13, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

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