Talk:Weekends with Adele/GA1

Latest comment: 7 months ago by Grk1011 in topic GA Review

GA Review

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Reviewer: Grk1011 (talk · contribs) 15:41, 19 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

Hi @MaranoFan: I'll be reviewing this for you. Expect comments within the next few days. Please also consider reviewing one of my noms. Thanks, Grk1011 (talk) 15:41, 19 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

GA review
(see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose, spelling, and grammar):  
    b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):  
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references):  
    b (citations to reliable sources):  
    c (OR):  
    d (copyvio and plagiarism):  
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects):  
    b (focused):  
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:  
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:  
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):  
    b (appropriate use with suitable captions):  

Overall:
Pass/Fail:  

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Infobox and lead

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  • Image license checks out
  • The use of day-month-year feels weird for a residency in America (and a US-focused main readership of this article), but I also understand that she is an English singer.
  • Agreed that it could go either way but I considered that this residency is primarily associated with an English singer!
  • In the first sentence, add that this is in Las Vegas.
  • It isn't clear why a decision to postpone would be "correct". If there are delays in production and folks have COVID, then it isn't really possible to have the event to begin with.
  • This is an ongoing event. Is some sort of banner helpful?
  • I don't think there are any banners we display on pages for ongoing events, for example there are none on The Eras Tour.

Background

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  • remove "the" before Wembley Stadium since it's a proper name
  • mention Las Vegas, where the venue is located
  • It may make sense to use the convert template to change USD into British pounds given the subject's background.
  • I haven't used this template before so please feel free to correct anything done incorrectly.

Postponement

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  • "her" -> "herself" crying
  • Remove "the" before Caesar's Palace
  • "will be" -> "would be"
  • This feels like an odd place to first mention that there were 24 shows.

Synopsis

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Critical reception

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  • Still don't understand the fanfare supporting a decision to postpone a show that couldn't have taken place anyway?
  • The Telegraph in the prose appears to be The Daily Telegraph instead?

Shows

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  • The empty columns don't appear necessary.

Notes

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  • Some of this amounts to trivia. I'm not sure it's necessary to mention these types of one-offs without context. Could any of the more notable items be incorporated into the prose?
  • I did give that some thought but these items did draw media coverage that warrants a mention, imo. Since full-show reviews are limited after the first date of a tour, this is the type of coverage subsequent shows keep drawing. I don't have good ideas to move them anywhere else, honestly.

References

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  • References to reliable sources
  • Earwig's copyvio shows somewhat high violation likelihood percentage, but this amounted to the set list and the properly attributed quatations.
  • It seems to be catching the entire setlist along with the venue name and quotes from Adele herself so not a copyright issue.

Discussion

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Hi @MaranoFan: Good job with this. Not much to address! Grk1011 (talk) 18:12, 21 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for the review, Grk1011! You caught a lot of stuff that could have gotten missed. Let me know if anything else needs doing and feel free to copyedit if you wish.--NØ 19:31, 21 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
@MaranoFan: I attempted to fix the two things that still didn't seem right (show list and notes). A huge table with just dates is just that. It would really need some information about specific performances to need such a large table. For other tours, the attendance and revenue are filled in. If those aspects will never be available, an alternate way of showing this would be warranted. For the notes, it really can't be a place to drop information that you can't find a good spot for; especially because this is where actual ref notes are located. I tried my best to incorporate them into prose for you, adding some text about why they're included, but take a look and figure out if these specific occurrences are really notable for a 100-show event or if you just have them because you found a reference that mentioned them. Grk1011 (talk) 19:53, 21 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
Hmmm, I'm not a fan of the change to the Notes but I am fine with that as a compromise. About the tour dates, it is actually more common for attendance and revenue to not be available than it is for them to be available. Just from a quick scan through GAs, ...Baby One More Time Tour, Bang and Whimper 2017 – The Farewell Tour, Beautiful Monsters Tour, Best of Both Worlds Tour, Dive Bar Tour (Lady Gaga), Metamorfosis World Tour, Touch the Sky Tour, etc. do not have them. I understand that a one-column table is an odd aesthetic choice, but not including the tour dates at all would be a glaring hole in the article. Unfortunately, I do not think that would be okay so I will have to undo that part.--NØ 20:08, 21 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
Fair enough. I added a couple columns based on similar residency articles from the categories this is in. All good for me at this point. Passing! Grk1011 (talk) 20:46, 21 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
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