Talk:We Gotta Get Out of This Place/Archive 1

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Title question

Both "We Gotta Get Out of This Place" and "We've Gotta Get Out of This Place" have been used. Which is the proper title for the article and the references within, "We ..." or "We've ..."? User:E-Kartoffel has taken it on his/her own to decide "We've" is the right form, based on the "original Columbia records single release label", and change it here and in many references to it in other articles. However, that one usage is not the sole determinant; we must use the most common and accurate title, not the "first".

In fact, the large majority of authoritative references use the "We" form:

• The BMI database, i.e. the song's publisher (a search for the "We've" form comes up empty; this is as official a source as you can have)
• The songwriters' bio page
• Rolling Stone's page on the song
• the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame's article on the group
• The 1983 Joel Whitburn Billboard Book of Top 40 Hits that I have
• U.S. labels, such as The Best of the Animals 1966 LP I have
• On the actual recording, Burdon is clearly singing "We"

In addition, there is Google:

• 217,000 hits for "We" versus 33,000 hits for "We've"

Finally, E-Kartoffel's main evidence, seemingly the picture sleeve of the UK single, is doubly flawed: "We've Gotta Get Out This Place" leaves out the "Of"! Clearly the title there was messed up.

Given all this evidence, it is clear that "We" is proper, and I have undone E-Kartoffel's changes. Wasted Time R (talk) 05:22, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Lyrics Question

Does it really mean "In this dirty old heart of the city" or "part of the city"?

For more than 40 yeares I misunderstood that song?? --Slartibartfass (talk) 22:44, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Marianne Faithfull

I believe she covered it, and it was featured heavily in Absolutely Fabulous: The Last Shout; when she plays God. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Subliminal.Kiddo (talk • contribs) 05:50, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Bobby Graham

As a long time Animals fan,I think the part about Bobby Graham drumming on this song needs to be corrected.Graham is credited with playing on We Gotta Get out of This place/I Can't Believe It on his website.However in listening to the the record close,there is a 2nd drum part buried in the mix which sounds very similar to the drum pattern of John Steel.Listening to other Animals hits feat.John on drums has the same kind of cymbal work present in the mix of this song.Therefore i believe John did do a drum part for this song w/maybe Graham doing an overdub part,the louder thumping following the chorus.Graham was once quoted as saying he would add overdubs to to songs and the group drummer's part would still be buried in the mix.Therefore my educated guess is that John Steel did the basic drum part w/Graham adding an overdub.The b side I Can't Believe iirc was recorded at the same session and the drumming on that song I would say is definitely John as it feat.his own unique drum style.There's a good possibility that John played on the American version of the song as it doesn't have the same drumming following the chorus.With all due respect,Graham has often been miscredited as playing on hits he really didn't play on.e.g.Tom Jones' It's Not Unusual.He said he thought he played on Tom's hit and later discovered it was someone else.I thought I'd clear this up so John could still credit for playing on the song.68left (talk) 22:38, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Unless you can point to some sources that agree with your ears, or that completely discredit Graham's claim, we'll have to stick with the current text. That doesn't provide a definitive credit, but rather states a claim: "Ubiquitous British session drummer Bobby Graham later stated that he played on the record, not Animals drummer John Steel.[7][9]" Wasted Time R (talk) 02:28, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Every drummer has their own unique drumming style including Ringo Starr,Charlie Watts,etc.including John Steel.Having listening to all The Animals records over the years I can pick up johnny's drumming pattern.Granted I have no source,but was just making an observation.Graham btw claimed to play on many records that were later proven to be wrong.I know that a lot of studio musician paperwork was fudged over the years in order for a studio drummer to get a paycheck![````] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68left (talk • contribs) 06:55, 10 November 2012 (UTC) I sent a question to Danny Handley a member of Animals and Friends on facebook a group that also feat.original Animals drummer and he verified that it is definitely John Steel on drums on We Gotta Get Out Of This Place.This then dismisses Graham's claim. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68left (talk • contribs) 20:25, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

I've changed my way of thinking on this, especially after this edit by someone who may or may not be John Steel. The Graham claim is in the end weakly sourced, and I've taken it out on BLP grounds regarding Steel. I should have done so earlier. Wasted Time R (talk) 11:02, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Banned on U.S. Armed Forces Radio?

http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/academic/history/marshall/military/vietnam/hanoi_hannah.txt search for "eric burden". States that this song was played on Vietnamese Radio Hanoi radio, but was banned on UAF radio.

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