Talk:WIR Bank

Latest comment: 6 years ago by Saemikneu in topic NPOV dispute

Fair use rationale for Image:WIR-bank.png edit

 

Image:WIR-bank.png is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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BetacommandBot (talk) 09:11, 21 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

I deleted the image from this page, after checking the website of origin. The WIR Bank official website SPECIFICALLY states that no use is allowed of its logos, that they are trademarks, and protected by copyright, see Bitte lesen Sie die wichtigen rechtlichen Hinweise (Legal Notices)

Copyright All elements of this site are copyright protected and are the exclusive property of the WIR Bank. No part of the Site shall be construed in such a way as to allow the publication of, or right to use any picture, registered mark or logo.

The image that was here is the WIR Bank's official logo. The unauthorized use of this logo has been extant for four (4) F-O-U-R years, since BetacommandBot made the prior notation. --FeralOink (talk) 14:21, 22 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

Clean up edit

Numismatics tag edit

I removed the WikiProject Numismatics tag, as the article specifically states that WIR Bank has no specie, no physical currency. That means that it has no coins, and should not be included in a numismatic project.

Broken links edit

There are numerous broken links in the article, which I will try to correct. If not possible, I will flag with link rot.

Verifiable References edit

<strikeout>The research paper referenced, in PDF format, was presented at an IEEE Conference about Electrical Engineering, which is not the best source of information!</strikeout> Also, much of the content for this article is drawn verbatim from one website, New Economics Institute, whose only offices are in Great Barrington, MA and on Madison Avenue in New York City. However, WIR is a Swiss organization!

I am not questioning the legitimacy of WIR Bank as an organization, nor do I question its notability. However, there are many sources of information available about WIR Bank and its history. The sources are in English and German, from Swiss or other internationally well-known websites. Those should be used to supplement, or replace most of the links in this article. The content is similar, and will reflect more favorably on the legitimacy of WIR Bank, a Swiss entity, than a small blog based out of Massachusetts in the U.S.A.

The image needs to be removed. There was a warning about it in 2007. The WIR Bank official website provides a photo of the Bank for use by the press and for publicity. That would be a better choice than the company's logo, which is not offered for use. --FeralOink (talk) 06:44, 22 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

I read the research paper, the one presented at the IEEE Conference, by James Stodder. It is actually a rather well-researched, quantitatively sound article. The data sources are good, the statistical analysis is sound. The conclusions of the paper, in the last two pages, did not support some of the material that was attributed to it here though, which is why I edited accordingly. Also, the paper was written in 2000, which I noted. Please disregard my comments about the suitability of the paper above. In fact, it is one the best reference sources in the article. --FeralOink (talk) 14:34, 22 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

Interest bearing or interest free? edit

Is the WIR Franc Interest bearing or interest free? The article says: "the WIR Bank renounced Gesell's 'free money' theory in 1952, opening the door to monetary interest" and then later says: "These WIR obligations being interest free have a cost of zero" Thanks! --Lbeaumont (talk) 14:52, 23 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Can't find the documentary right now but a spokesperson said that something about the absence of interest unless I'm mistaken. The phrase you've quoted should be clarified. --JamesPoulson (talk) 03:21, 28 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

NPOV dispute edit

This article is heavily biased towards WIR Bank. It says, "WIR has perfected the system by creating a credit system which issues credit, in WIR Francs, to its members" and "It has a stable history, not prone to failure as the current banking system is," without citation. This is a totally subjective opinion on a complex subject which is not addressed. Most of the references that are listed go to WIR itself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oort1 (talkcontribs) 13:22, 4 November 2014 (UTC)Reply

Agreed on those examples. I slightly rewrote them. Saemikneu (talk) 23:57, 14 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

Hear ye, hear ye... edit

All this talk about WIR Bank, no information about the WIR franc. No notes regarding WIR franc behavior on Swiss economy (WIR franc's reason for being), or if successful in method, the modis operandi of how it actually fucnctions (rules governing WIR franc itself, and associated mint). Do you have anything other than advertising copy; that might help. 108.13.17.82 (talk) 00:59, 3 June 2016 (UTC)Reply