Talk:Värm mer Öl och Bröd/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 07:18, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

Good Article review progress box Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Let's go with another review of a classical composition! --K. Peake 07:18, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

Indeed. Thanks as always. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:39, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

My pleasure, brother! --K. Peake 08:49, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• The composition is only sourced as dated to 14 November 1771, not written on that date
  • It was certainly written on that date in 1771 as the manuscript survives.
• Are you sure punctuation should be inside quotation marks for the subtitle?
  • I'd prefer to follow the source but we can try it without.
• The radical and innovative part should be the last sentence of the lead, as this is about critical commentary
  • reordered.
• "It details the" → "Värm mer Öl och Bröd details the" per this being a new para
  • No, that would require every paragraph about the song to begin in that way, but there is no such rule.
• Refs should not be in the lead when all this info is already sourced in the body
  • Removed, except for the one for the word "famous", which will be challenged unless visibly and directly cited. Actually the second one is a direct quotation and I had cited it for that exact reason; we can risk it without.
• Maybe the English translation should be in brackets and why is there a comma before it, also shouldn't one be before the line itself?
  • Repunctuated, and no, there shouldn't be a comma before the line.
• "is unusual, too, in being" → "is unusual, in being"
  • No, the continuation is essential here.

Context

• Good
  • Thanks.

Music

Song

• Add relevant text to the audio sample
  • Has been done.
• Shouldn't you write No. before the numbers of the epistles?
  • Done, it's marginal.
• "to 14 (the pattern recurring in epistle 59, "Hurra Courage, Bagage! God dag Bröder!", also)." → "to 14, as well as the pattern recurring in epistle 59, "Hurra Courage, Bagage! God dag Bröder!"" (exclamation mark can be used to close a sentence in this context)
  • Rearranged.
• "of fifteen lines." → "of 15 lines." per MOS:NUM
  • Done.

Lyrics

• Again, are you sure punctuation should be inside quotation marks for the subtitle?

Yes.

• Wikilink Ulla Winblad
• Pipe warming pan to Bed warmer
  • Done.

Reception and legacy

• Wikilink Childbirth on the img text
  • Done.
• Remove wikilink on childbirth in prose; this has already been done in the previous section
  • Done.
• "In his view," → "In Lindé's view,"
  • Done.
• "and gripping way."" → "and gripping way"." per MOS:QUOTE
  • No, when a quote is from the end of a sentence the punctuation is included.

• That only applies when a full sentence is quoted; read through the guideline properly. --K. Peake 06:32, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

• "with Ulla in" → "with Ulla Winblad in" because she is not a real person
  • Done.
• "new little Movitz."" → "new little Movitz"."
  • No, when a quote is from the end of a sentence the punctuation is included. Fixed.
• Why is Epistles capitalised only in the second para?
  • Lower case throughout, except when the full title is given.
• "in the twentieth century," → "in the 20th century," per MOS:NUM
  • Done.
• Third para and img look good!
  • Noted.
• [1] should solely be at the end of the sentence
  • No, it's to protect the adjective "famous" by declaring specifically that this is a direct quotation, and must be immediately adjacent to have any chance of being noticed.
• Again, maybe the English translation should be in brackets and why is there a comma before it, also shouldn't one be before the line itself?
  • Punctuated as before, and no, as before.
• Pipe phallic symbol to Phallus
  • Done.
• Pipe bacchus to Dionysus
  • Done.
• Pipe Fröja to Freyja
  • Done.
• Last para looks good!
  • Noted.

Notes

• Good

References

• Copyvio score looks incredible at 4.8%!!!
  • Noted.
• Cite Bellman.net as publisher instead on ref 1
  • Done.
• WP:OVERLINK of Bellman Society on ref 11
  • All right, removed.
• Should ref 14 have the language parameter?
  • Added.
• Pipe Vetenskapssocieteten i Lund to The Society of Sciences in Lund on ref 16 and I have the same query as above for this one
  • Done both.
• Pipe Polydor to Polydor Records on ref 18
  • Done.

Sources

• Good
  • Noted.

External links

• Good
  • Noted.

Final comments and verdict

•  On hold until all of the issues are fixed after this quick review! --K. Peake 08:49, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
  • All done to date. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:49, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

• Chiswick Chap This looks good, apart from the MOS:QUOTE issues that I still explained need fixing in further detail above. --K. Peake 06:32, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

• OK, done. If any more tiny tweaks needed, feel free to fix them. Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:37, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

• ✓ Pass time, this all looks good now! --K. Peake 17:14, 10 April 2022 (UTC)