Talk:Tom Wills/GA1
Latest comment: 10 years ago by Roisterer in topic GA Review
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Reviewer: Roisterer (talk · contribs) 05:08, 14 January 2014 (UTC) Unfortunately I don't have the time in the forseeable future to properly review this article but I have made some very minor edits and here are a few of my thoughts upon reading this (very good) article:
- The article refers to "aboriginals" in lower case quite often. I understood it was now accepted practice to always capitalise "Aboriginals" (and in my day job of writing on Australian Aboriginal issues, capitalising Aboriginal is the accepted practice).
- Under the "Colonial hero" section, you will need a ref for the statement regarding Wills trading punches with MCC members.
- As an aside, it would be great to get the first poem on Australian rules football in Wikisource.
- In the "Victoria reigns..." section, you will need a ref for the Victorian Cricketers' Guide quote.
- We should be able to find the name of the Attorney-General referred to re struggle on the station.
As mentioned, this is not part of the official review; just some thoughts following a quick read through. Cheers --Roisterer (talk) 05:08, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
- It seems a bot has decided I am doing the official review for the article so I will have another look through when I have the chance. --Roisterer (talk) 04:59, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
- The name of the Attorney-General is not given in de Moore's book, but the man serving as the Attorney-General at the time was Ratcliffe Pring. Would it constitute original research to add his name? - HappyWaldo (talk) 03:52, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
- No, that should be fine. --Roisterer (talk) 05:21, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
Is the review still going on? If you don't have time I can just put it back in the queue. Wizardman 02:49, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
- While I haven't had much time to go back over it, I notice that some of the earlier points I raised have not been addressed. In my mind it is a very good article that needs primarily some references added, so hopefully my initial concerns are dealt with and then we can work from there. --Roisterer (talk) 03:51, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
- For the "best cricketer in Australia" quote, should I cite the primary source (Victorian Cricketers' Guide) - which is extremely rare - or a more recent book which can be found in most libraries? Also I'm still not sure which instances of aborigine/aboriginal should be capitalised and which should not. Perhaps a major contributor on a related page can make the corrections. - HappyWaldo (talk) 05:08, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry, I just realised you had posted here. I have gone back over the article and besides a few typos (and changes that may well not have been required). To answer the "best cricketer in Australia" question first, feel free to use a secondary source. Also, I'm happy to go with your choice on the Aboriginal/aboriginal divide.
- For the "best cricketer in Australia" quote, should I cite the primary source (Victorian Cricketers' Guide) - which is extremely rare - or a more recent book which can be found in most libraries? Also I'm still not sure which instances of aborigine/aboriginal should be capitalised and which should not. Perhaps a major contributor on a related page can make the corrections. - HappyWaldo (talk) 05:08, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Besides this, I find the article to be excellent quality; very well written and sourced and a very interesting read about one of the biggest figures in Australian sporting history. --Roisterer (talk) 12:04, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks, Roisterer. I added a ref for the "best cricketer in Australia" quote. Do you know a user who could sort out the capitalisation issue? - HappyWaldo (talk) 05:43, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
- Not sure of a particular editor but I found this from Monash University on writing on Aboriginal Australians and Torres Strait Islanders. It recommends capitalising, but I'll have see if Wikipedia has a style guide on this issue. --Roisterer (talk) 04:08, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
- The featured article Yagan capitalises "Aborigines", but it's only mentioned once. - HappyWaldo (talk) 11:20, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
- And as far as I can see, the Wikipedia Manual of Style regarding Capital letters doesn't seem to help either... --Roisterer (talk) 07:04, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
- Search results are really 50/50. Nonetheless I have gone ahead and capitalised "Aborigines" on the back of this: "Always capitalise ‘Indigenous’ and ‘Aboriginal’ when you’re referring to Australian Aboriginals, but not when you are referring generally to the original inhabitants of other continents." - HappyWaldo (talk) 07:36, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
- Great stuff. I will now go through the paperwork required to officially make this a Good Article. --Roisterer (talk) 00:00, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
- Search results are really 50/50. Nonetheless I have gone ahead and capitalised "Aborigines" on the back of this: "Always capitalise ‘Indigenous’ and ‘Aboriginal’ when you’re referring to Australian Aboriginals, but not when you are referring generally to the original inhabitants of other continents." - HappyWaldo (talk) 07:36, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
- And as far as I can see, the Wikipedia Manual of Style regarding Capital letters doesn't seem to help either... --Roisterer (talk) 07:04, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
- The featured article Yagan capitalises "Aborigines", but it's only mentioned once. - HappyWaldo (talk) 11:20, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
- Not sure of a particular editor but I found this from Monash University on writing on Aboriginal Australians and Torres Strait Islanders. It recommends capitalising, but I'll have see if Wikipedia has a style guide on this issue. --Roisterer (talk) 04:08, 20 March 2014 (UTC)