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More on the iwi/hapū
editI've added a picture and more references, and summarised the historical background according to the Waitangi Tribunal (which is more complex than the account given by the Whānau themselves it seems). I can't figure out where the supposed negotiations at the time of Seddon's death fit in (NZ Geog article); those need a summary and reference. It would be good to clarify the status of Te Whānau o Tieke Māori: this article says their iwi is Uenuku, whereas the NZ Geographic piece calls them Ngā Rauru. Perhaps the Waitangi Tribunal report makes it clearer somewhere. Also, it looks like the “correct” spelling of the name – but not the the official NZ Geographic Board/LINZ Gazetteer spelling – is Tīeke. Because it's not yet the one most commonly used we should hold off moving the article for a bit. Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 17:32, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
- The iwi for for the people of Tieke is Whanganui or Te Atihau nui a papa rangi. The Hapu is Ngati Hinekura who is the daughter to Tukoio and granddaughter to Tamahaki the common ancestor of the kainga and surrounding land blocks Gtcorrection (talk) 20:37, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- Can you supply a reference? The 1999 NZ Geographic article says they're "Nga Rauru, a subtribe of the main Whanganui tribe, Te Ati Haunui-a-Paparangi", which I can see just isn't true – Ngā Rauru are separate from the Whanganui iwi. But we'll need a source: the Waitangi Tribunal would be good but I couldn't find a clear statement it it that we could cite. It's important enough that we need to get it right. —Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 22:59, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- The 1999 NZ Geographic article said that Francis (son of Larry Ponga) belongs to Nga Rauru. It didn't give a tribal affiliation for the rest of the group. Nurg (talk) 07:16, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- Can you supply a reference? The 1999 NZ Geographic article says they're "Nga Rauru, a subtribe of the main Whanganui tribe, Te Ati Haunui-a-Paparangi", which I can see just isn't true – Ngā Rauru are separate from the Whanganui iwi. But we'll need a source: the Waitangi Tribunal would be good but I couldn't find a clear statement it it that we could cite. It's important enough that we need to get it right. —Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 22:59, 17 April 2019 (UTC)