Talk:The Tuss

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Here's that source for the GX1 bit,

http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguide/music/story/0,,2087326,00.html

"And in a degree of attention to detail mostly conducted behind closed doors before the advent of the internet, some keen-eared fans have identified the farty squelch of one particular synthesiser as the GX1 - a gigantic modular synthesiser so rare only a few exist. And you know who has one, right? Right. Seriously, it's like The Da Vinci Code for techno nutters."

It is RDJ i think, unless this Brian fellow is good mates with him and allows him to use the GX1, but given Ricanrd's fondness for aliases in the past, i doubt it.

Doesn't prove its him, but time will tell no doubt.

i wonder how long this article exists b4 its cut for notability? the myspace is almost definately faek. --AlexOvShaolin 01:29, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

well, it's an artist on a notable label, which has recieved some press attention, so by WP:MUSIC it's a notable artist. --Kaini 14:00, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

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I've added the word "supposedly" to this article because there is no evidence that the people known as Brian and Karen even exist. Listening to the tracks, there is a clear Aphex Twin influence. It's quite likely this is yet another in a long series of Aphex Twin pseudonyms. Thus, I think the word is appropriate for adding, here. Jgw 16:01, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

I've removed it - whether or not they are influenced or actually are the Aphex twins is purely your conjecture - lets stick to the facts as known, unless you can prove otherwise 129.215.181.158 (talk) 17:30, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

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I removed IDM from the genre list. Press release mention Chicago House, guardian mention electronica, acid techno, also mention Rephlex is for "Braindance". All sources don't mention IDM at all for you. Thank you! Susume-eat 23:24, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

susume, i have better things to be doing than readding three letters removed b you to articles over and over, like actually improving articles. good luck on your crusade! --Kaini 05:17, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

the section about the band members list from the myspace page is rubbish. the page in question was created by robbie martin of record label records and the other names in the list are other artists who have released on his label , with the exception of wisp, who created the fake tuss track "teddy oggie" which appears on that page. i adjusted the link to the myspace page to redirect it to the actual rephlex tuss myspace http://www.myspace.com/cat189, but that was automatically re-edited back to http://www.myspace.com/briantregaskin --Charrid (talk) 12:47, 20 May 2008 (UTC)charrid

what makes you think thats the actual myspace page? more likely its not. -cats —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.158.232.98 (talk) 13:01, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

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Both Discogs.com and Rushup Edge's Allmusic Guide Review claim that The Tuss is, in fact, another name for Aphex Twin. What should we do with the The Tuss article?Lord Weasel (talk) 03:04, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

hmmmm.. got that myspace wrong again people, see above for corrdct information. Charrid (talk) 18:05, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

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Why is there even any discussion? There is no-one, but no-one who can even come close to making the sound that Richard D James does.... except for The Tuss. Which can either mean one thing - either Richards stillborn twin brother has in fact survived all this time, and started producing his own music under the name of The Tuss - or the smirking ginger goofball is just trying to mess with his fans (again).

And why remove IDM from the genre list? Its CLEARLY IDM. You only have to have ears and a brain to understand that its less Tehcno than IDM. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.154.153.2 (talk) 15:36, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

aron funk?

HAHAHAHA YOU'RE FUCKING RETARDED 66.158.232.107 (talk) 00:39, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Despite the childish way this poster has chosen to put it, I have to agree. Venetian Snares produces Breakcore, not Braindance. And besides, all the songs on all three recordings are in 4/4 and have a steady beat. Venetian snares rarely records in 4/4 and his music, save for his work as Last Step, has almost never featured steady drumbeat. What's more, The Tuss are analogue group. Venetian Snares is digital. Therefore, I think we should remove Aaron Funk from the list of suspects. Lord Weasel (talk) 01:52, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Venetian Snares produces very varied things, including his VERY braindance-y side project Last Step. Don't put it beyond him. —Mr. MetalFlower · chat · what I done did do 18:44, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

As Mr. MetalFlower said, Funk's output has crossed an incredible variety of genres; though his music is often called "breakcore," some of his tracks could be called acid, dub, industrial, noise, drum 'n' bass, gabber, classical, as well as IDM/Braindance, among others. He has has an absolutely monstrous number of releases, and he has experimented in virtually every corner of the electronic world. Additionally, he is not a completely digital compser, either. In fact, his most recent release, Sleep (on the Planet Mu label, under the Last Step pseudonym), is almost entirely analogue. I actually considered that The Tuss might possibly be him at one point while listening to their music, as he admitted in an interview last year that he has a few pseudonyms that people have not yet caught on to, but the fact that it is entirely in 4/4 might be damning to that notion; he has also admitted (possibly in that same interview, though I'm not 100% sure) that he actually has difficulty writing music in 4/4. The "wonky" time signatures he's famous for come more naturally to him, apparently. I can go dig up that interview (or those interviews, if they are indeed separate ones) if someone wants. ChaosMaster (talk) 08:36, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Errors in this article !

Hello all Richard D. James lovers!

I found that the The Tuss album and ep are not released by Rephlex Records but, according to the myspace profile of Tuss (http://www.myspace.com/thetussmusic), by Herplex (obviously a wordgame!).

Also, I recently found that Aphex Twin is present with another project on myspace, Autobrazil / The Tussy (http://www.myspace.com/autobrazil). The tracks are there since 2007, nobody ripped them even on Soulseek.

I first published this in my personal blog (in romanian, sorry guys!): http://mironghiu.wordpress.com/2009/01/08/aphex-twin-mai-prajit-ca-niciodata/

I also edited (pending) this new peace of info on Richard D. James wiki, too!

Peace!

Miron Ghiu —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nomaduzzu (talk • contribs) 15:03, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

that myspace is fake. all tuss myspaces are fake. Kaini (talk) 23:22, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

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This page might as well be merged with the main Aphex Twin one. BMI's page on "JAMES RICHARD DAVID" is clearly proof that The Tuss is another of Richard D. James's aliases. (And yes, their album is released via Rephlex. You can buy it at rephlex.com.) Not that it particularly matters, but as AFX is also there, The Tuss should be for consistency. Zoeb (talk) 22:30, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

I Searched BMI, and could not find that article. Please link me. Conkern65 (talk) 02:26, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Here you go. This essentially puts the Tuss mystery to rest, as far as I can see. There's no reason for Wikipedia to list The Tuss as a "speculated" side project if Richard James is demonstrably asserting his legal rights to the material. — ラビット The Black Rabbit of Inlé_{(Licensed RDJ Detective, of the "Way Ahead of You" Division)} 22:34, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

the contest

I'm surprised there's no mention of how The Tuss got the record contract. Rephlex held a contest saying the best demo sent in would win a record contract. The Tuss were the winners. This adds 2 wrinkles to the "is The Tuss really Aphex Twin" controversy. 1) if they are just an Aphex pseudonym then it might've been a way out of a contest where no one's demo was good enough to win the prize but the contest rules didn't allow for that. If that's the case he might not legally be allowed to admit that he's The Tuss without being sued. 2) I'm not sure what year the contest was but if it was 2006 or 2007 (the first tuss ep was 2007 so it couldn't have been later) then we have proof he's The Tuss because he was playing their songs live back in 2005 (in sets where he was playing a few different artists' songs as well as his own). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.54.162.208 (talk) 21:17, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Notability

This article is completely notable. Richard D. James is one of the most influential and pioneering electronic music artists in the world, and here we have an alias that's allegedly his work, but no one knows with certainty because the record label denies it. How and why should this interesting and informative article be under threat of deletion for not meeting notability guidelines? Just look at the length of its talk page! Kemery720 (talk) 23:38, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

The best way to prove its notability is to identify some more specific reliable sources, online or offline, which demonstrate it. For example, further articles even just discussing the possibility that Richard D. James is behind The Tuss would likely be sufficient to establish notability. --David Edgar (talk) 23:29, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Merge Proposal

Now that RDJ has admitted that The Tuss is one of his pseudonyms (see new edit to the page that includes a proper citation), I propose a merger with the full Richard D. James page. This is compounded by the fact that for two years the page by itself has had its notability questioned. If nobody has any objections, I'll move to Step 2 in the merge guidelines. --Akhenaten0 (talk) 15:23, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Go for it! Kaini (talk) 09:36, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Okay, so is ANYONE against this now? Seems pretty clear, but I don't want to shut out any voices. Decorum and all. Honestly, I don't see what much of this can be saved for the Aphex Twin article; all that business about the validity of the pseudonym seems no longer necessary. --Akhenaten0 (talk) 02:09, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Well, let's keep in mind the fact that Richard's MO has been historically being less than honest in interviews. At the same time, well, most things point out at believing him this time. So, yeah, add the two EPs to his discography page and add a note in the his article's prose about the previous denial and fabricated story. 201.190.31.64 (talk) 23:30, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Really, I wonder how much of this page needs to go there at all. The Aphex twin page covers a lot of it already in the 2004-2009 section, especially after I just revised it. --Akhenaten0 (talk) 18:20, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Sure. But regardless of how much materials are there, The Tuss, because of its unique independent materials should have a distinct section on its own merit in Richard D. James / Aphex Twin joint page. The Tuss page this way can redirect to the specific The Tuss section created with # link like Aphex Twin#The Tuss. By the way, quite a few weeks have passed on proposal, so you might just as well implement merger provided The Tuss gets a separate section. werldwayd (talk) 21:32, 9 October 2014 (UTC)