Talk:The Pale Emperor/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Retrohead (talk · contribs) 17:05, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

I'll review this as part of the GA cup. Since the article is quite lengthy, I'll post comments as I read the prose.

• By "newcomer Tyler Bates", you mean it was Bates' debut as a producer?
• Can't we lose the references in the genre section and discuss it in the prose? If IPs keep changing it, add a hidden note not to do that.
• There are several links that change path and need to be updated. See the box on the right.
• Media seems to be ok, but do we have alternatives to the Twitter and Instagram references?
• Ref 105 is not properly formatted. Also, Loudwire and The Quietus should be italicized, both in the prose/table and references.

Sorry I didn't see this sooner, @Retrohead:. This page, and the section on the article's talk page, never showed up on my watchlist, for some reason. But I've made all the changes you've pointed out above, all bar one. I can't get ref 54 (Amazon.com: Third Day of a Seven Day Binge - Marilyn Manson) to stop changing path. I don't know what the problem is. That's the bare minimum URL there, and it's exactly what shows up on my address bar. Could you take a couple of seconds to look at it? Thanks. Homeostasis07 (talk) 19:42, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay Homeostasis07, I was participating in street protests here in Macedonia, but here's the rest of the review:

• Can you reduce the sample quality to about 60 kbps as the sample guidance suggest? 80 is not a big deviation, and if you can't, it won't be a big problem. The images are fine.

Done. Homeostasis07 (talk) 18:33, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

• Regarding the commercial performance, do we have worldwide sales, or total sales in the US perhaps? I mist admit, the new Billboard sales counter seems confusing a bit, but I think you've handled well overall sales vs pure album sales.

I can't find a source for worldwide sales; and the last reported US sales figure is the 136,000+ figure from MetalInsider, which only post the "pure" album sales, for some reason. I think it only did an extra 1k in the US with streaming/track downloads on its first week. I doubt the total SPS figure is much higher than that, to be honest. Homeostasis07 (talk) 18:33, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

• The problem with the critical reception at most album articles is that it reads like WP:QUOTEFARM. Writers simply ramdomly stack a bunch of quotations from magazines that don't read cohesive. Try paraphrasing some of these, maybe group the positive and the negative reviews in different paragraphs.

I've changed the critical reception section up here. I removed either 7 or 8 individual quotes there, and then started to struggle with reducing it down any further. Let me know if that's not enough, and I'll give it another try. Homeostasis07 (talk) 18:33, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

• The 'Release and artwork' section is closely related to the commercial performance, but if you think these topics should be separated, no problem.

I think there's enough there to warrant separate sections. There's stuff in Release and artwork that would need to be removed altogether for it to work in Commercial performance. Homeostasis07 (talk) 18:33, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

• I'm putting this on hold. If you're done with a point I raised, please respond below it for better navigation. Thanks for all your effort and patience so far.

Thanks @Retrohead:. I'll make the changes you've described above within 24 hours. I've just come off an - unexpected - double shift tonight, and I'm not in a very good state of mind to be editing Wikipedia right now. I'll make your suggested changes when I get some sleep. ;) Homeostasis07 (talk) 00:00, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks again @Retrohead: I think I've done everything. If there's anything else, let me know. ;) Homeostasis07 (talk) 18:33, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

That would be all. If can you remove the Quietus review from the box and add another one with an actual score (positive and negative is someone's perception, not a score). Also, can you reduce the "definitive box set" from the lead to just "box set" (also losing the quotes). Appreciate your work so far.--Retrohead (talk) 18:53, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Both done. Homeostasis07 (talk) 01:32, 27 April 2016 (UTC)