Talk:The Dark Pictures Anthology: House of Ashes/GA1

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Cukie Gherkin (talk · contribs) 22:25, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):

   b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a. (reference section):

   b. (citations to reliable sources):

   c. (OR):

   d. (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a. (major aspects):

   b. (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):

   b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/fail:

(Criteria marked are unassessed)

Infobox

1. The producer, designers, artists, and writers are only mentioned in the infobox. Their contributions should either be discussed in the prose cited by RSes or have them removed from the infobox.

   All that could reliability mentioned/sourced are in the body of the article now. The rest are important to the creation of the game but don't have any reliable sources that I could find involving them. -- ZooBlazer^talk

2. Unreal Engine 4 is not mentioned in the article

    Added ref -- ZooBlazer^talk

3. Is the 22 October release date worldwide (WW)?

   Yes. Looking at other game GAs and FAs (God of War, Spider-Man, and Until Dawn) it doesn't seem to be needed to add the WW anymore. It's supposed to be assumed I think. If regions have different release dates then that is noted such as with Until Dawn. -- ZooBlazer^talk

Gameplay

1. Should the difficulty levels be capitalized since they are modes of play?

   Done -- ZooBlazer^talk

2. Are there any sources that specifically identify the bearings feature as "butterfly effect"?

   The VentureBeat review does --- added citation - Eli

Synopsis

1. The Curator should be mentioned as a returning and recurring element

   Mentioned it under the gameplay section. -- ZooBlazer^talk

2. Does Clarice get cured?

   No matter what happens she dies, but this feels too trivial of a fact to mention - Eli

3. "As they escape towards the catacombs below them, the Americans encounter Dar, now joined by Salim." - Not a big deal, but since the rest of the plot is cited, I'd like to see this cited too.

   Done -- ZooBlazer^talk

Reception

1. Hardcore Gamer, PC Gamer, and VideoGamer sources is only used in the template; try to incorporate them into the Reception section

   All incorporated into the body of the article. -- ZooBlazer^talk

Images

1. Is the animated image necessary? I wouldn't describe the rationale as poor, but I wonder if it's necessary to visualize the relationship between the two.

   Removed. It was something that we discussed in the past. -- ZooBlazer^talk

@Your Power: Done. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 05:24, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

@Your Power: Hi, are you still working on this? - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 04:42, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

@Cukie Gherkin I could probably attempt to address the remaining issues if @Your Power is too busy or unable to for other reasons, but I definitely didn't want to take over this nomination because I wasn't the main nominator, only a co-nominator. -- ZooBlazer^talk 05:19, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

I've no complaints. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 16:18, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

Would you consider MobyGames a reliable enough source? It's the only place i found that could possibly be used for adding Unreal Engine 4 and the producer, designers, artists, and writers to the body of the article.

• MobyGames potential ref

-- ZooBlazer^talk 02:05, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Unfortunately, MobyGames is user contributed. For now, I do have this, which I wouldn't discount the GAN for using it to source the engine. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 03:10, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Awesome. I'll definitely include that one. Just need to find something for the producer, artists, etc. and then I'll incorporate everything at once. -- ZooBlazer^talk 01:40, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

This could be used. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 02:22, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

The AMA also mentions some other staff mentioned in the infobox. Additionally, I see that the game has a dev diary that might be helpful. [1] - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 02:33, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

Looking at other game GAs like God of War 2018, it doesn't appear every person in the infobox needs mentioned in the article body. It appears pretty impossible for some of the people also. However, looking through the infobox has helped me find some inaccurate people for the game -- ZooBlazer^talk 05:00, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

I think I have refs for everyone except programmers and designers. -- ZooBlazer^talk 05:06, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

I have noticed that there are GAs without references to people who worked on games, or ones that are only in the infobox, but for me, it begs the question of "why are these people mentioned in the infobox only?" To me, if they are important enough to be in the infobox, the article should reflect this. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 06:16, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

They're important to the game, but they are more behind the scenes and don't have articles written about them or mentioning them. At least nothing reliable that can be used on here. -- ZooBlazer^talk 06:19, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

Ultimately, any unreffed people should be cut from the article, and those that are reffed should be mentioned with at least a quick mention of their contributions. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 03:23, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

@Cukie Gherkin So should I remove Max Bottomley, the lead designer? He's mentioned in the AMA on reddit but not the article covering the AMA. -- ZooBlazer^talk 03:42, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

The AMA should be fine, because it's verifiably an official AMA. Reddit is relatively unpopular as a source, but for as simple a fact as that, it should be fine. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 03:44, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

@Cukie Gherkin Not sure I can use reddit unless I can figure out how to cite the specific comment and not the entire AMA. -- ZooBlazer^talk 04:05, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

@Cukie GherkinI ended up just removing the designer. Also addressed the final concern that you initially had. Let me know if there's anything else that needs addressed. -- ZooBlazer^talk 06:30, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Aight, we good. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 06:42, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

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