Talk:Teen film/Archive 1

Archive 1

Opening segment

The opening segment lists among the elements common to teen movies the following, to which I take exception: "'token black guys'," "slow-motion entrances," and "cars." As for the first two, these are obviously references to specific scenes and lines of dialogue in Not Another Teen Movie, rather than germane observations of real plot elements in teen flicks. (Yes, these elements exist, but they are by no means definitive of the genre.) And if you can identify a single movie genre that doesn't involve "cars" (even Westerns have had cars before), then you get a gold star. Let's get it out of there. Chalkieperfect 03:04, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I took out the ones I mentioned above, and I also consolidated the list so that the litany of words like "cheerleaders" and "geeks", into "social groups and cliques", which I think is more concise and appropriate. Chalkieperfect 18:18, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

List of movies

After looking through the list of teen movies, I can't help thinking that it's much, much too long. Isn't there some way to abbreviate this so that it includes just the really major entries in the genre, rather than listing off every teen movie in the history of mankind? Specifically, do we really need categories like "Time-travel movies" on the list? 24.127.52.15 19:14, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

I honestly think we can do without the list and just make this article a short definition of what a teen film is like this for example: cult classic. Demoman87 23:28, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Overgeneralizing?

I think that this line:

"Very often these in itself serious subject matters are presented in a glossy, stereotyped or trivializing way."

...is overgeneralizing. Not every teen movie is like that. Some present the more mature themes in a more realistic fashion (or try to anyway...). For this reason, I put up the NPOV tag; in truth, it's actually above that, but I couldn't think of a more appropriate template message.

Another thing, some teen movies are apporopriate for family viewing, and thus I have put a statement to that effect. Brittany Ka (talk) 18:40, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

You seem to contradict yourself. You assert that "Not every teen movie is like that", and that's what the article already states. So, if that's your sole basis for applying the MPOV tag, it should be removed again. __meco (talk) 00:13, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

In any case, there are other parts of the article that may be POV, and so the tag needs to stay anyway. Brittany Ka (talk) 17:03, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Either you should point to what other parts you consider to be POV or you ought to remove the tag. If we are going to make improvements to the article that is kinda hard if you don't specify what exactly it is that you are unhappy with. __meco (talk) 01:16, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

On a related syntactical note, is "in itself" even an adjective? Would it matter to replace "Very often" with "Often"?ScarySquirrel (talk) 09:17, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

"in itself" may be unidiomatic English. I suppose I was thinking Norwegian when I picked that wording. I have no objection to dropping the very. __meco (talk) 11:48, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

I just removed the bit about suitability for family viewing. The "family viewing" concept was not defined but as far as I understand it, it's short-hand for "not offensive to people of any age" - but that is a very complex and culture-dependant issue indeed, and an absence of "mature themes" doesn't equal "non-offensive". In fact, the opposite can often be true - but as I have no good source for that I'm not about to include that in the article ;-)

Secondly, because teen films are not an exclusively North American or English-speaking-world concept, I've added some general verbiage about variation in different cultures. (To take the gigantic Indian film industry as an example - teen films produced in Bollywood are more likely to discuss issues concerning marriages and the relationship with one's parents, than illegal substances and losing one's virginity.) --Bonadea (talk) 11:11, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Separate Article for Teen Comedy

I think Teen Comedies are significant enough to warrant a separate article. There are loads of them and the stories don't always involve teenagers; Judd Apatow's films are mostly not about teenagers but the target audience is clearly teenagers. --220.181.46.210 (talk) 01:49, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

DELETE

This "article" should be deleted immediately. It is merely the unsubstantiated, undocumented opinions of anonymous "writers"--the very sort of thing that damns Wikipedia in the eyes of academics and other critics of this "encyclopedia." 63.215.28.13 (talk) 17:26, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Please don't add multiple {{unreferenced section}} tags to an article already tagged with {{unreferenced}} – that just makes the article uglier for no benefit. You are welcome to propose this article for deletion as described in the deletion policy. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 14:22, 29 December 2009 (UTC)