Talk:Summer Days (Georgia O'Keeffe)/GA1

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Grnrchst (talk · contribs) 17:50, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

@Grnrchst Thank you so much for taking this on and for providing helpful feedback. I hope to address all of your comments by tomorrow latest! Ppt91^talk 15:16, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

Lead

• "such as Rams Head with Hollyhock (1935) and Deer's Head with Pedernal (1936)." Think this may be excess detail for the lead, especially if they have no articles of their own. done Y
• "prompted various art historical interpretations." Maybe just "prompted various interpretations". Move the link to art history to "art historians". done Y

Historical context

• "draughtsman" Is there a more gender-neutral term for this? done Y changed to draftswoman
• "major art historical movements." Not "major historical art movements"? done Y changed to "art movements" and is now linked appropriately
• "after finding out about" Maybe "after she found out about" instead done Y

Description

• First sentence is quite a long run-on sentence. Perhaps it could be broken up a wee bit? done Y separated into three shorter sentences
• "with "top three-fourths"" Should have a "the" added after "with". done Y new sentence now
• "a place in New Mexico where O'Keeffe would spend her summers beginning in the early 1930s" Already mentioned extensively in the previous section. This could be cut. done Y

Reception

• No need to link to Stieglitz again after first mention. Redirect for An American Place is fine though. done Y
• Do we know why Stieglitz disliked the title?
• "was a subject of critical debate during the late 1930s." Unsourced. Either find a source or cut this. done Y deleted the previous footnote and placed the correct one at the end of the sentence

Influences and scholarship

• "O'Keefe combination" Should be "O'Keefe's combination" done Y
• Second sentence is quite long, could be broken up a little. done Y
• "She also points [...]" As this is a new paragraph, who your referring to should be clarified. done Y edited the beginning of the paragraph, separating sentences and adding more detail to clarify context

History of ownership

• No notes

Notes from Ppt91

• @Grnrchst I addressed issues raised above and removed one of the fair use paintings, as it is not sufficiently addressed in the article, per your suggestion. Please let me know if there is anything I might have missed. Thanks again for your help with this GAN! Ppt91^talk 17:11, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

  I forgot to mention that I am still looking for more information as to why Stieglitz disliked the title, which necessitates a bit more research. Ppt91^talk 17:13, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

Checklist

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):

   Some grammatical issues here and there, noted above. Nothing major.

   b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a. (reference section):

   If you can, try and add links to versions on Google Books or the Internet Archive. It helps with verifiability.

   b. (citations to reliable sources):

   Impeccable sourcing.

   c. (OR):

   One bit is still uncited, noted above. A citation should either be provided or this bit removed.

   d. (copyvio and plagiarism):

   Earwig only flags a direct and attributed quote.

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a. (major aspects):

   b. (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

   No reversions since its creation last month. Most recent edits have been copy edits and category management.

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):

   Image of Summer Days is fair use. Red Canna and Still Life with Dead Game and Peaches in a Landscape are in the public domain. After the Hunt is licensed under CC BY-SA 4.0. Georgia O'Keeffe, Hands and Horse Skull is licensed under CC0. Only potential hiccup is Cow's Skull: Red, White, and Blue, which is licensed under fair use, but as it's not commented on or criticised in this article, it should probably be removed to be safe.

   b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):

   As this is an article about art, alt text should almost certainly be provided for each of the images used.

7. Overall:

   Pass/fail:

   It's very close, but a few prose issues, a single instance of an unsourced statement and a possible fair use issue are currently holding it back. These should be fairly easily fixed though, so I'm happy to pass it when they've been addressed. --Grnrchst (talk) 17:50, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

(Criteria marked are unassessed)

@Ppt91: Ok! Thanks for addressing this all so thoroughly. I'm going to go ahead and pass this now. The detail about why Steiglitz disliked the title would be good to know, but it's not a blocker to GA. I'd also really strongly suggest adding alt text to the images, but again, that's not a blocker to GA - it's just an accessibility recommendation. Nice work on this! Very good article. --Grnrchst (talk) 17:20, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

@Grnrchst Thank you very much. It was a pleasure working with you. I just added a new footnote with a direct quote from the NYT about Stieglitz. I think that's probably the best clarification we can get on his sentiment regarding the title. Also, I appreciate your comment about the images alt texts and agree it's important, even if not required for GA per se, and hope I'll be able to get to it soon. Thanks again! Ppt91^talk 17:28, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

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