Talk:Spanish Hill/GA1

Latest comment: 9 years ago by RHM22 in topic GA Review

GA Review

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Reviewer: Jakec (talk · contribs) 02:07, 19 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

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I just finished reviewing this article. Congrats for your work on a Pennsylvania geographical feature! My review notes are below (fortunately it's a short list).

For criterion 1A:

  • "Spanish Hill is a landform..." ought to read "Spanish Hill is a hill...".
  • "...in the town of South Waverly, Pennsylvania" technically South Waverly is a borough; there's only one town in PA.
  • The first and third occurrences of "twentieth-century" ought to be "twentieth century" or even "20th century" since their nouns, not adjectives.
  • "Spanish Hill comprises approximately 10 acres (40,000 m2) of earth that rises approximately 230 feet" this could go either way, but I'm thinking it should read and rises.
    • I've addressed all of these. I really should have been more thoughtful regarding the town/borough issue! I live in Pennsylvania, but it's easy to forget the official terminology used.-RHM22 (talk) 04:05, 19 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

For criterion 1B:

For criterion 2A:

  • Mostly good, but "As Twig wrote: “Until more information is known, it seems imprudent to eliminate Spanish Hill as a possible site related to the nation of Carantouan, as some researchers have done (Kent 1984:300-301, McCracken 1984).”[12]" has both a parenthetical citation and a regular WP-style citation.
    • This was added by another editor, so I'm not certain, but I believe the parenthetical citations were included as part of the quoted material. Nonetheless, they seem quite unnecessary, so I've just removed them. Please let me know if that is acceptable to you.-RHM22 (talk) 04:05, 19 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

For criterion 2B:

  • The elevation should be referenced. Come to think of it, it would probably be good to have in the body as well as the infobox.
  • The GNIS (ref 1) doesn't say that the hill is in South Waverly, but the next reference (ref 2) does.
  • Refs 14 and 20 are deadlinks. It seems unreliable (a personal site), though I could be wrong.
  • "Occupying a site that was formerly home to portions of the Susquehannock people, the hill has been acknowledged and studied by historians and archaeologists for over two hundred years" - the source doesn't say that the hill was inhabited by the Susquehannock; it says that the Susquehanna River valley was. The Minderhout ref even says "there has been considerable debate over whether Spanish Hill was ever occupied by the Susquehannocks or other native peoples".
  • Refs 17 and 18 failed verification. Possibly the wrong page numbers? Or was I just not looking closely enough?

For criterion 3A:

  • Seems a bit short. Some information on the wildlife/plantlife of the hill would improve the article.
  • Adding the USGS quadrangle that the hill is in (Sayre) would be a valuable little addition.
    • I added that, hopefully in the proper manner. Sorry for my ignorance here; I'm not a geography expert, but Spanish Hill has been an interest of mine, so I studied to be able to write the article properly. Nonetheless, I'm still unfamiliar with some aspects.-RHM22 (talk) 04:05, 19 February 2015 (UTC)Reply


For criterion 6a:

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  • Well-written
    • The prose is clear and concise, respects copyright laws, and the spelling and grammar are correct:  
    • It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:  
  • Verifiable and no original research
    • It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:  
    • It provides in-line citations from reliable sources for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines:  
    • It contains no original research:  
  • Broad in its coverage
    • It addresses the main aspects of the topic:  
    • It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail:  
  • Neutral
    • It represents viewpoints fairly and without bias, giving due weight to each:  
  • Stable
    • It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:  
  • Images
    • Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:  
    • Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:  
  • Overall
    • On hold Pass
  • Thank you for your very thorough and thoughtful review, Jakec! I have attempted to address all of your points, and I hope that I have done so to your satisfaction. However, I have a few questions as well, which I have added above. Thank you again for your time and hard work.-RHM22 (talk) 04:05, 19 February 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • Jakec: I've made a few fixes in reference to some of your above mentioned points. I also purchased a PDF of Twigg's report from the Society for Pennsylvania Archaeology, which I have added to the article as a few inline citations. I will also add some more information, if I can find anything appropriate in it.-RHM22 (talk) 18:57, 19 February 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • Jakob: Well, I read through Twigg's paper for the SPA and I've added a few things (including the identity of the "French visitor"), but I wasn't able to find anything else to add, unfortunately.-RHM22 (talk) 17:23, 21 February 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • Thank you, Jakob, for your thorough and thoughtful review. It really helped me to improve upon the article considerably. I will continue doing research, so that I can hopefully add something about the local wildlife.-RHM22 (talk) 18:24, 23 February 2015 (UTC)Reply