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Huge Bananas 05:50, 6 December 2005 (UTC)


This is much practised in the netherlands. Being dutch myself, i can tell. I dont know the official dutch name for it( we just call it "surprise giving"), but i do know it is pretty widespread. Someone should write a dutch paragraph in this article 15:20, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Thieving SantaEdit

The "Thieving Santa" section seems to mirror the content found in the White elephant gift exchange article. I added a reference to the other article, not sure if we need the same info in two places.

Groucho 20:14, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

yjn yyjn (talk) 13:06, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

Thieving Santa 2Edit

Since there has been no further discussion, I removed most of the Thieving Santa section since the rules are already covered in the White elephant gift exchange article.

Groucho 03:17, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

In internetEdit

There was secret santa on bulletin board that I used hi to visit, if I remember corectly idea was that you must fill out hint list (containig questions about you)and e-mail it, together with your real address and username of that forum, to a person who, after received e-mails from all who wanted to participiate (there was deadline for e-mailing your list)draws names and then e-mails you name and address of person to whom you must send present. Just thought that it`s an interesting fact and maybe someone will find this usefull -- Xil - talk 22:47, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

On a Norwegian forum/billboard called this has become a tradition. People sign up, and when everyone has signed up, the arranger decides who will send to who, and then people send a gift to a random person they've probably never met. Fun. :) The Secret Santa-topic (talk) 20:54, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Kris Krindle?Edit

Since when was the "Kris Krindle" name used on the UK? I've only ever heard of this ritual as "Secret Santa", I've never heard "Kris Krindle" used in my life! James2001 10:35, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

A google search reveals 52 hits on "Kris Krindle" and only a few of them appear to be referring to the gift it appears to be a valid term, just not that common. However, Kris Kindle (the actual term in the article) has 558 hits, most of which seem to be about the gift exchange. -- MisterHand 17:17, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
Likewise I've never heard it called Kris Kindle. It's only ever been Secret Santa in my (British English) experience. I'm editing the article to make that term less prominent. — OwenBlacker 20:58, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Secret Sanata user in AustraliaEdit

I don't think I have ever heard Kris Kindle used in Australia. Has anyone else? I think I will change it to secret santa if nobody objects =)--Bitbitz.xx 10:58, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I've heard Kris Kringle used in Australia, not Secret Santa. In fact, I came alongst this page by looking up Kris Kringle... Thai Phan 11:59, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Kris Kindle is certainly not a UK expression: can the original author of that section be asked to explain their source?

Kris Kringle is used in AustraliaEdit

My in-laws use the term "Kris Kringle" here in Australia and it is referred to here:––Rectangle 22:54, 19 September 2006 (UTC)


I dont think the purpose is nessecarily to restrict gift giving. What does everyone else think? Cls14 09:44, 1 December 2007 (UTC) Why should one restrict the gift giving ??? Http:// —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:38, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Secret SatanEdit

Some atheists at my school call it Secret Satan not wanting to admit it is of christian origins-- (talk) 03:57, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

History of?Edit

Likewise I am from the UK and had never heard of it - it seems to be another of those made up traditions that originates in the USA. To the best of my knowledge in the UK and the rest of Europe gifts are/were always given personally except those for children that were supposedly from "Father Christmas/Santa Claus, etc." In our family, in addition to the main presents that were from personal givers, there would be small items that were known as "Christmas Tree presents" and normally distributed after lunch. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:04, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Purpose of these "games"Edit

Surely the purpose of these "games" is to aid gift giving, and to reduce the problem from an n x (n-1) problem - O (n^2) to a n-1 problem - O (n).

If you have around n members of a community which wants to indulge in gift giving/receiving, without showing preferences, and "special friends", then these games reduce the number of gifts which have to be bought and transferred considerably, and presumably means that some people don't get left out.

If someone wants to work this into the body of the text it might provide a helpful explanation.

Dave2002uk (talk) 09:10, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Secret Casino SantaEdit

Can someone add to explain how the winner of the money pot is determined? Thanks (talk) 13:16, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Intro is annoyingEdit

The introduction is ridiculous, there's no need to place SO MANY variations from every country in the first paragraph. This should be moved to it's own section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:47, 14 December 2021 (UTC)