Talk:Scary Monsters (and Super Creeps)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Tkbrett (talk · contribs) 15:47, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

It's time I returned the favour to someone that's been such a big help lately. I'll get through this one sometime this week. Tkbrett (✉) 15:47, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Infobox

• Could you confirm the date "Ashes to Ashes" released as a single? In the infobox it says 12 August 1980, in the release section it says 8 August, and on its associated article it says 1 August.

• I think I must have misinterpreted something there. I cited O'Leary yet he says 1 August, so not sure what happened there. Fixed. – zmbro _(talk) 22:37, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Lead

• The music on the album has elements of...: reads a little awkward. How about "incorporates elements of"?

• Done. – zmbro _(talk) 22:48, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

• Unlike prior releases, Bowie spent time writing the music and lyrics; ...: awkward phrasing. I know what you are going for b/c of what appears after the semi-colon, but this bit reads as a dig.

• Agree. Changed to "Unlike the improvisational nature of prior releases," – zmbro _(talk) 22:48, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

• Rest is solid.

Background

• The trilogy was made in collaboration with musician Brian Eno and producer Tony Visconti.[1] The trilogy was highly influential; ...: somewhat repetitive w/ "The trilogy was... The trilogy was...". Consider joining them as something like Made in collaboration with musician Brian Eno and producer Tony Visconti, the trilogy was highly influential.

• Done. – zmbro _(talk) 22:48, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Recording and production

• Guitarist Adrian Belew, who played on Lodger, claimed to have received advanced payment...: claim is a word to watch (MOS:CLAIM) since it implicitly calls into question the statement's credibility.

• Fixed. – zmbro _(talk) 22:48, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Artwork and packaging

• The lettering used was a reworking of Gerald Scarfe's lettering for Pink Floyd's The Wall, which would be replicated on many album covers following its release.: Which one was replicated often? Bowie's or Pink Floyd's?

• Pegg: "The ink-blot lettering, an adaptation of the Gerald Scarfe style popularized a few months earlier by Pink Floyd’s The Wall, would be replicated on countless sleeve designs over the next few years." So I think Bowie's? – zmbro _(talk) 22:48, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

• ...following its release: the "its" here is ambiguous since it could be referring to either Scary Monsters or The Wall. Pegg's original wording avoids the ambiguity by saying it was the lettering people were imitating. I'd try to reword it with that in mind.

• I agree. Changed to "in ensuing years" is that better? – zmbro _(talk) 03:40, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

• Looks good.

Release

• The single and video are both regarded as one of Bowie's finest, ...: by whom?

• His biographers; fixed. – zmbro _(talk) 22:51, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Aftermath

• Good.

Influence and legacy

• Although Bowie would receive worldwide mega-stardom and commercial success in the following years...: mega-stardom isn't really something you receive so much as achieve. Anyway, this seems a bit like peacockery.

• Good point. Fixed. – zmbro _(talk) 22:51, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Track listing

• Good.

Personnel

• synth-bass ought to be linked somewhere, presumably Keyboard bass.

• Done. – zmbro _(talk) 22:51, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Charts and certifications

• Good.

References

• In places, I checked the information in the article against sources where able and it appears to be well referenced.
• copyvio score is 30.6% (violation unlikely)

Final comments and verdict

• Images are either PD or, in the case the two pieces of album art, appropriately marked as fair use.
• On the whole a very well written article. You make it look easy! I made several fixes as I was going through. If any of them look strange just let me know. Once the comments above are addressed we're good to go. Tkbrett (✉) 19:38, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

• Thanks for reviewing! Comments are above. – zmbro _(talk) 22:54, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

• ✓ Pass: All good. Nice work! Tkbrett (✉) 12:20, 17 June 2021 (UTC)