Talk:Russian ironclad Ne Tron Menia/GA1

GA Review

Article (edit | visual edit | history) · Article talk (edit | history) · Watch

Reviewer: Starstriker7 - public^(talk) 01:21, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

I'll take on this review. --Starstriker7 - public^(talk) 01:21, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Criterion 1

• Wouldn't it make sense to also give the Russian name of the ship in the first line of the lead?
  • Done.
• In the Design and description section: "but her endurance is unknown." - Wikilink endurance.
  • Article on refers to animal or human endurance.
• In the Service section: "in front of the mizzenmast" - Can you wikilink mizzenmast?
  • Done
• In the Service section: "served with the Mine School at Kronstadt" - Can you wikilink Mine School at Kronstadt?
  • No article to link to for the mine school, but I've linked to Kronstadt.
    • Red links aren't a bad thing. Perhaps someone will take advantage of the red link later. --Starstriker7 - public^(talk) 03:17, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
      • I'm not sure that enough info exists to make even a stub as I've barely heard of it. Plus I'd be reluctant to do so without knowing the school's formal name.

Criterion 2

• "probably as a result of poor water flow to the rudder" - can you cite this?
  • Already cited a sentence later.

Criterion 3

• I'm not going to hold you to this for GA's sake, but can you elaborate on how Ne Tron Menia sank during World War II? Also, is there a reason why she was not put back into service after being salvaged?
  • Source doesn't specify cause for loss, nor reason for scrapping. OR, probably too old to be worth repairing.

Criterion 4

The article meets neutrality criteria.

Criterion 5

Looks stable, based on the page's revision history.

Criterion 6

• Why is there a picture of Pervenets on this article? I recommend that you either remove the picture, or you tweak the caption to make the picture more relevant to the article.
  • No photo of the ship is available, closest I can come is her sister. How can I make it more relevant? I already tell the reader that she's the sister with a link.
    • On a first glance, I confused the Pervenets for the Ne Tron Menia. Perhaps you can put the image somewhere later in the article? --Starstriker7 - public^(talk) 03:17, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
      • The photo of Pervenets shows the prominent ram bow and suffices to give an idea of what Ne Tron Menia looks like. If there's going to be a photo in the article it needs to be in the infobox. Don't get too hung up on the fact that it's not the actual ship.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 03:29, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
        • Alright. I won't press any further. --Starstriker7 - public^(talk) 03:50, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Overall comments

Nice work, Sturmvogel. This was a really interesting read. I would never have guessed anyone would name a ship for a Bible verse. You should've submitted this to DYK. :D

• • Already did. Thanks for the review.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:51, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
    • No problem. I'll pass the article momentarily. --Starstriker7 - public^(talk) 03:50, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

In any case, there's not much work left between Ne Tron Menia's current state and GA status. Once again, good work; I'm putting this on hold until the few comments are addressed. --Starstriker7 - public^(talk) 01:40, 18 July 2011 (UTC)